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[Klaus]

And finally the EOS 5D II review ...
http://www.photozone...myang35f14eosff

Images will be added later next week. The weather conditions are currently miserable locally.

[Klaus]

And finally the EOS 5D II review ...
http://www.photozone...myang35f14eosff

Images will be added later next week. The weather conditions are currently miserable locally.

PS: This sample had a slightly better centering than the tested Nikon variant.

[Brightcolours]

PS: This sample had a slightly better centering than the tested Nikon variant.

Is there any chance to show 2 images of the same subject and exposure, both at f1.4 and at f2.8, as sample images? This would be valuable to illustrate the contrast at f1.4?

[jenbenn]

And finally the EOS 5D II review ...
http://www.photozone...myang35f14eosff

Images will be added later next week. The weather conditions are currently miserable locally.

Klaus, thanks for the test. I just wanted to encourage you to take some indoor available light photos with this lens.Especially for large apperture lenses low light is a major field of application and it would be great if you could post some reprsentative photos. The added avanrtage would be that you dont have to rely on good weather... Thanks!!!

[Rainer]

I just noticed a difference in the votings of
mechanical quality between the Nikon FF test and the
Canon FF test (4 stars vs. 4.5 stars) ...

... Question ... is this just a personal preference of the tester,
or is the Canon-version indeed differently built?

Just a thought ... Rainer

PS: BTW ... thanks very much for the test. A very interesting lens indeed.

[Klaus]

I just noticed a difference in the votings of
mechanical quality between the Nikon FF test and the
Canon FF test (4 stars vs. 4.5 stars) ...

... Question ... is this just a personal preference of the tester,
or is the Canon-version indeed differently built?

Just a thought ... Rainer

PS: BTW ... thanks very much for the test. A very interesting lens indeed.

The Nikon version offers an automatic aperture as well as focus confirmation. That's certainly worth the extra half point over the Canon variant.

[dbm]

[To what extent is the lower contrast at wide apertures compensateable for by using the clarity slider in Lightroom or its equivalent?

[Klaus]

[To what extent is the lower contrast at wide apertures compensateable for by using the clarity slider in Lightroom or its equivalent?

I will try to provide some unmodified samples.

[Klaus]

I will try to provide some unmodified samples.

I've withdrawn the statement that the contrast @ f/1.4 is worse than on Canon.

Markus wasn't thrilled with his field images in this respect but his sample had a slight centering issue.
The Canon field images look just fine here.

[Klaus]

I've withdrawn the statement that the contrast @ f/1.4 is worse than on Canon.

Markus wasn't thrilled with his field images in this respect but his sample had a slight centering issue.
The Canon field images look just fine here.

Added sample images.

[Brightcolours]

Added sample images.

Nice very illustrative samples, Klaus!

Indeed, the contrast in the f1.4 images still is very usable. And it clearly is a very sharp lens. Only thing that is not so wonderful is the bokeh, they did not pull off the miracle again they performed with the 85mm f1.4!

If in future I go full frame, this is indeed a very interesting f1.4 lens. Not for my uses of 35mm on APS-C.

[Rainer]

Only thing that is not so wonderful is the bokeh, they did not pull off the miracle again they performed with the 85mm f1.4!

Well, you would find the same thing if you would compare the
EF 85L vs. EF 35L ...
it is a much shorter focal length ... so it is probably not possible
to get the same creamy bokeh that a 85 delivers.

just my 2cts Rainer

[dave9t5]

Added sample images.

Making me thirsty...

[cptrios]

Hey Klaus,

I love the website, and I registered just to say this:

I've noticed that several of your sample shots on the Canon FF review suffer from the "5d2 Live View image-bottom vignetting" problem. This happens when you use a lens with no AF-confirm chip and shoot in Live View...for some reason, particularly at fast shutter speeds, the shutter doesn't clear the bottom of the frame in time. It's easily solved by focusing, then turning off Live View, or by getting a chip! If you don't know what's going on, it'll make you think there is something seriously wrong with a lens (I was pulling my hair out until I read about it the first time!) Might this have had an effect on your vignetting tests?

PS - I don't mean to presume...just thought it might be helpful!

[Klaus]

Hey Klaus,

I love the website, and I registered just to say this:

I've noticed that several of your sample shots on the Canon FF review suffer from the "5d2 Live View image-bottom vignetting" problem. This happens when you use a lens with no AF-confirm chip and shoot in Live View...for some reason, particularly at fast shutter speeds, the shutter doesn't clear the bottom of the frame in time. It's easily solved by focusing, then turning off Live View, or by getting a chip! If you don't know what's going on, it'll make you think there is something seriously wrong with a lens (I was pulling my hair out until I read about it the first time!) Might this have had an effect on your vignetting tests?

PS - I don't mean to presume...just thought it might be helpful!

Well, I used LiveView for the vignetting tests and the results are perfectly symmertrical here.
I think the effect is probably more related to the extremely high shutter speed when using large apertures in outdoor situations.
Where this is more of a problem when doing it from LiveView - maybe. I can try in future tests.

[Brightcolours]

Well, you would find the same thing if you would compare the
EF 85L vs. EF 35L ...
it is a much shorter focal length ... so it is probably not possible
to get the same creamy bokeh that a 85 delivers.

just my 2cts Rainer

You are confusing the smoothness of bokeh and the amount of blur. Of course, a 85mm lens gives way more blur. But is the blur smooth? Creamy?

No. The Canon 85mm f1.2 is quite smooth in its bokeh, but does not quite get there. The Samyang, is another story. The background bokeh of this lens is WAY more creamy/smooth than the others (Canon, Nikon, Sigma).

Same with the Zeiss 34mm f1.4, as far as the images I have seen can give a good impression. The Samyang has very busy bokeh, the Zeiss seems to have very smooth bokeh.