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#1 toni-a

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Posted 08 March 2015 - 12:44 PM

Yep I am getting 5D the good old one.

perfect condition, have been using it for months,after a friend lended it to, great but slow, it is doing its job fine.

Now I need a wide lens: my lineup I am actually using : Canon  EFS 17-55 f2.8 (on 30D), 28mm f2.8 , 50mm f1.4, 100mm macro, plus some dust collecting lenses I don't even carry in my bag.

I always carry 2 cameras, I usually swap cameras instead of changing lenses.

100 macro is almost always on 5D it makes great portraits.

Now i am considering either getting Canon EFS 11-18 IS or a full frame ultrawide (an affordable one not the 11-24) what would you recommend ?

I also considering getting a  decent portraits lens  Canon EF 85mm f1.8 comes to my mind,  will it be of any addition especially I already have the 100 mm macro  and I am extremely happpy with it ?

With the years I learnt that I don't need to have a full coverage for every focal length so I am getting only what I need and don't want any new dust collecting items



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Posted 08 March 2015 - 03:56 PM

The EF-S 10-18 I've found to be a great little lens and the image quality doesn't disappoint even at its low price.

 

Overall the 85/1.8 can get you more shallow depth of field but if you're happy with the 100 macro already, I think you could skip it.


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#3 Rainer

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Posted 08 March 2015 - 06:11 PM

I second 'popo' on the 10-18 ... for the money you will

not find a better UWA.

 

With the 5D all your existing primes do now serve a dual purpose ...

with the 28 + 50 + 100 and the two sensorformats you now

have the FF-equivalent of 28+45 + 50+85 + 100+160.

 

Certainly, the imagequality of a 85/1.8 on the 5D will

be a little better than that of the 50/1.4 on the 30D

but the resulting images will be quite comparable ... on top,

you already said, you are quite satisfied with what you

get from the 5D+100mm combo.



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Posted 09 March 2015 - 05:34 AM

The 10-18 won't mount on your 5d. -- you can use eg on apse but not efs on full frame.

The 16-35f4 is a lovely full frame ultra wide.

#5 Rover

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Posted 09 March 2015 - 10:00 AM

5D - but it's, uh, like 10 years old by now? Surely a used 6D would've been a better option?



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Posted 09 March 2015 - 07:15 PM

If you want the full frame fast prime look, I don't think there are many cheaper ways to do it than the 5D. Going to film is possibly the only other option. Local to me, a used 6D is over 3x the cost of a 5D so it is no small difference. Of course, the 5D does have its limits, but especially as it isn't an only camera, you can spread the load between bodies as needs arise.


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dA Canon 7D2, 7D, 5D2, 600D, 450D, 300D IR modified, 1D, EF-S 10-18, 15-85, EF 35/2, 85/1.8, 135/2, 70-300L, 100-400L, MP-E65, Zeiss 2/50, Sigma 150 macro, 120-300/2.8, Samyang 8mm fisheye, Olympus E-P1, Panasonic 20/1.7, Sony HX9V, Fuji X100.


#7 Rover

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 10:04 AM

Well, everyone has his/her own tastes... Personally I would've never gone that route, especially now. A used 1D Mark II N seems a much more sensible choice in the same price bracket, and 1D Mark III even more so (no idea how much it costs though).



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Posted 10 March 2015 - 10:42 AM

Neither of those have a full frame sensor.


dA Canon 7D2, 7D, 5D2, 600D, 450D, 300D IR modified, 1D, EF-S 10-18, 15-85, EF 35/2, 85/1.8, 135/2, 70-300L, 100-400L, MP-E65, Zeiss 2/50, Sigma 150 macro, 120-300/2.8, Samyang 8mm fisheye, Olympus E-P1, Panasonic 20/1.7, Sony HX9V, Fuji X100.


#9 Rover

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 12:50 PM

Yes, but they have APS-H which is a best of both worlds methinks...  ;) It still has the larger pixel pitch while the worst corners are lost and you gain some more effective reach for the time when you need it. Though, of course, there's a downside of not being able to use either APS-C or FF wideangles to the full extent of their power (if that's important for the OP).



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Posted 10 March 2015 - 02:02 PM

The big plus for FF is the ability to get more shallow DOF. You can get wide angle just fine on APS-H, with for instance a Tokina 12-24mm f4 DX.

 

The 5D has a particularly nice colour in its files, a richness and contrast that is attractive. Similar to the 1D mk III.



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Posted 10 March 2015 - 03:14 PM

The big plus for FF is the ability to get more shallow DOF. You can get wide angle just fine on APS-H, with for instance a Tokina 12-24mm f4 DX.

 

The 5D has a particularly nice colour in its files, a richness and contrast that is attractive. Similar to the 1D mk III.

I found that F/4ish on APS-H gives plenty of that (and usually I still have to stop down even more to have acceptable depth of field). YMMV. Either way, I'm not sure the difference is going to be noticeable between FF and APS-H.



#12 Brightcolours

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 04:47 PM

I found that F/4ish on APS-H gives plenty of that (and usually I still have to stop down even more to have acceptable depth of field). YMMV. Either way, I'm not sure the difference is going to be noticeable between FF and APS-H.

That is photographer dependent. I find that 55mm f1.2 does not always give me enough shallow DOF, and surely will notice that APS-C or APS-H won't offer as much. You then have no real use for FF, which is understandable and fine.

 

There is a reason APS-C has its fans, and 4/3rds too. And of course FF, and APS-H.



#13 Rover

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 05:14 PM

That is photographer dependent. I find that 55mm f1.2 does not always give me enough shallow DOF.

Ouch... I can't think off the top of my head why is that. Can you show me an example of what you're doing with that? I'm not trying to pull your leg... just genuinely curious. From what you've been saying, you seem to be very much into macro, but that's not an area where you'd need (or indeed want) very large apertures...



#14 Rainer

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Posted 11 March 2015 - 02:44 PM

Toni did not start the discussion if (or not) the 5DMk1 is (or is not)

a camera he should buy. Instead, he mentioned as a fact, that he

is getting one. His question was regarding lenses.

 

The fact, that some forum users do, and others don't understand his

choice of camera is not really helpful in this context. Also, the relevance

that some put on a certain sensorformat, and the irrelevance this has

for others, will also not answer the original question.


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#15 toni-a

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 01:16 PM

Many thanks all, as I told you I was already using 5D and happy with it, that's why I the decision of buying it was quite easy, I just said to my friend if you don't mind, I won't give you back the 5D, I am keeping it for good, name your price.

 

This weekend I went shooting using 5D plus 50mm f1.4 and 100mm macro and didn't feel I needed anything more so I am quite happy with it, what I need is an ultrawide lens for landscape and architecture, my widest lens now is Canon EFs 17-55f2.8 , I am extremely happy with it as walkaround lens however I often need wider. It doesn't matter if the lens is full frame or APS-C but from your experience which one would be the best ?

on APS-C no doubt the best option is Canon EFs 10-18, on full frame I think there are plenty of good  options what do you recommend ? I get EFs 10-18 or another one to use on 5D ? which one 



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 08:31 PM

The 10-18 is said to be a great choice but I've never used one.

 

As an owner of the 5D classic/Mk 1/whatever, I can recommend the Sigma 15-30 EX. Mine is sharp from wide open and feels great. The contrast is really nice two, which helps to forget the impossibility to use filters.

 

The biggest downside of the Sigma is the work against the sun, as it flares pretty hefty but on the other hand, it's 15mm!!


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