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#1 Klaus

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 11:16 AM

Substantially better than the XF 35mm f/2 ... yummy 
 

http://www.fujifilm....specifications/

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http://www.fujifilm....specifications/


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Posted 25 August 2016 - 11:23 AM

Shall I trade it (35/2) in?  ^_^ Then i had two 23 and no more 35 (but just in between us, I don't use it often...)

 

I ordered the X-T2 yesterday, the dealer offered me - without asking for - the battery grip for half price. Cool, the extra batteries are nearly paid  :D officially it will be on sale from September 8th.



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Posted 25 August 2016 - 01:05 PM

A little concern about the 43mm filter size; which is hte same as the 35f2. Otherwise positive mtf.



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Posted 25 August 2016 - 01:11 PM

A little concern about the 43mm filter size; which is hte same as the 35f2. Otherwise positive mtf.

My Canon EF-M 22mm f3 has a 43mm filter thread too. I bought a Marumi 43mm circular-pl filter for it which is not in any way thin or low profile, and it introduces no vignetting at all. 

Only odd thing about this filter I bought is the aluminium finish (not black). Luckily that has not caused me issues (yet) (not shhoting into the sun with a pol. filter).

 

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Looking at the small front element in relation to the filter size, and the relatively moderate AOV for 23mm on APS-C, I am confident the filter size is fine for this lens.



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Posted 25 August 2016 - 01:26 PM

Shall I trade it (35/2) in?  ^_^ Then i had two 23 and no more 35 (but just in between us, I don't use it often...)

 

I ordered the X-T2 yesterday, the dealer offered me - without asking for - the battery grip for half price. Cool, the extra batteries are nearly paid  :D officially it will be on sale from September 8th.

That will be a nice early Autumn present, all the pre-reviews are making it out to be a very special camera indeed!  I particularly like the left hand side viewfinder, no "beak grease" on the rear screen.



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Posted 25 August 2016 - 01:32 PM

The EVF of the X-T2 is centered, the one of the X-Pro2 is left sided. So, beak grease, no escape from  :unsure: but it might be a nice camera anyway. I wonder when there will be the X-T20?



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Posted 25 August 2016 - 03:19 PM

The EVF of the X-T2 is centered, the one of the X-Pro2 is left sided. So, beak grease, no escape from  :unsure: but it might be a nice camera anyway. I wonder when there will be the X-T20?

Oh beak greased rear screen it is then!

 

 The Angry Photographer has been playing with the XT-2 today with the latest FW, he now states that it beats the D500 in terms of tracking ability and focus speed.....maybe this is the mirror-less turning point for AF!

 

  Many find the guy painful and bigoted, but his testing of the AF tracking is what many here have been predicting!

 



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Posted 25 August 2016 - 04:38 PM

You saw him actually testing something? Maybe you linked the wrong video  :ph34r:  :D  ;)



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Posted 25 August 2016 - 04:52 PM

Valhalla, N.Y., August 25, 2016 – FUJIFILM Corporation has announced the new FUJINON XF23mmF2 R WR, a compact, weather and dust-resistant wide-angle lens weighing just 180g. [...]

Sometimes I'm thinking that they chose that town just for the cool name. :)



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Posted 25 August 2016 - 05:59 PM

You saw him actually testing something? Maybe you linked the wrong video  :ph34r:  :D  ;)

No, he was with the Fuji rep for several hours testing the XT-2, these are his findings!



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Posted 25 August 2016 - 11:41 PM

Substantially better than the XF 35mm f/2 ... yummy 
 
http://www.fujifilm....specifications/
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http://www.fujifilm....specifications/


In the central circle of approximately 2 cm diameter the 35 beats the pants out of the 23 (contrast & resolution) Only in the very corners does the 23 outshine the 35. I would not subscribe to "Substantially better". Though the homogeneity of the new 23 is quite something, I agree.
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Posted 26 August 2016 - 12:22 AM

Valhalla, N.Y., August 25, 2016 – FUJIFILM Corporation has announced the new FUJINON XF23mmF2 R WR, a compact, weather and dust-resistant wide-angle lens weighing just 180g. [...]
Sometimes I'm thinking that they chose that town just for the cool name. :)


Let's hope it's not the place where dead systems are coming from. ;-)
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Posted 26 August 2016 - 09:56 PM

Let's hope it's not the place where dead systems are coming from. ;-)

Was Samsung based there as well? From the way the NX system ended, I think it would rather reside in Hel...



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Posted 29 August 2016 - 12:04 PM

Stumbled over the video linked by dave and watched also this one

https://youtu.be/LtqH0MRk7Ng

 

(no need to suffer the blurp if not for entertainment reasons  ^_^ ) but together with the Fujirumors article about the final firmware, I'm really looking forward to see what's behind this "smoking my D500 in terms of tracking"  :blink:



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Posted 04 September 2016 - 06:38 PM

Looks like the 23mm f/2.0 is optically corrected for distortion. That's at least one point that should make Klaus happy :)



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Posted 04 September 2016 - 07:09 PM

Stumbled over the video linked by dave and watched also this one

https://youtu.be/LtqH0MRk7Ng

 

(no need to suffer the blurp if not for entertainment reasons  ^_^ ) but together with the Fujirumors article about the final firmware, I'm really looking forward to see what's behind this "smoking my D500 in terms of tracking"  :blink:

 

I am wondering whether his comment about image compression DX vs FX is valid.

He says that the compression is different for a 85mm f/1.8 FF vs a 56mm f/1.2 APS-C.

How can it be different at the same focus distance ?


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 09:14 PM

Simply because it's a different focal length. Please feel free to live the equivalence dream, it will for me never be true. It's simply no valid logic to up- or downscale all (!!! And not only some) involved parameters. Which doesn't mean, I defend him or say his logic is better than yours, he talks and repeats too much.

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 09:50 PM

So you have no argument.


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 10:36 PM

Exactly.   :D

 

I just don't believe it's possible to equvalent each involved parameter - which has also to be print size and watching distance and still see - no only calculate - the pictures will be different. Sensors in general react differently to put 1.5× light or ISO on them and it shifts the whole range of dynamics, too. You always calculate, as if an APS-C sensor behaves exactly like a m medium format sensor, just 2.5 smaller and that's totally unreal, simply not happening in real world.

 

No one would get bigger sensors, if a smartphone sensor could do exactly the same like a medium format one - and just don't start to point out where's the difference, because all that differeences are there throughout the whole range of sensors. One is not like another. There's a reason for bigger and for smaller sensors and you can calculate as long as you want, they never will bring you the same results. And I'm not talking about tiny little jpg samples.



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Posted 05 September 2016 - 02:13 AM


Take the equiv lenses - set to 2m - both put on a tripod that isn't moved, of course.
For the arguments sake - let's take a portrait.
How could the nose, the eyes, the ears be possibly any different?
Because of the same distance, the angle to those points is exactly the same.
If the angle is the same, the compression is the same.

Compression is about focus distance.
If you stay with the same format, you have a different compression for an ultra-wide, wide, std, tele, super-tele ... because they are used at different focus distances (for that head portrait). Different focus distances = different angles.

q.e.d.
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