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#1 Klaus

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 11:11 PM

http://www.sonyalpha...cusing-fe-lens/

Interesting ... fairly big though. This vs the Loxia 21mm f/2.8?
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Posted 25 August 2016 - 11:51 PM

Looks slightly bigger than the Loxia, but not that much



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Posted 26 August 2016 - 04:00 AM

There's already a Voigtlander 21mm 1.8 thats quite good so this has limited novelty. Although the V does have some mild corner colour issues on Sony cameras. I found it surprisingly hard to focus manually though, enough that I don't like using it.

 

I hope sony makes a fast wide angle soon



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Posted 26 August 2016 - 10:00 AM

I don't think that the V21mm is "optimized" for digital cameras.


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Posted 26 August 2016 - 01:05 PM

Tokina goes manual focus? Now that's what I call degradation...



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Posted 26 August 2016 - 05:28 PM

Agreed what's the point by a manufacturer like tokina to make a manual focus (and from the picture manual aperture) lens?

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 10:53 PM

So I guess I am the only one who is not stressed by a manual focus ultra-wide lens ...


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Posted 26 August 2016 - 11:28 PM

The Loxia 21 is quite popular on the Fred Miranda forums

I have no problem with manual focus. I often travel with Loxia 50 and Contax G90. It's fine for non moving subjects at F8



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Posted 27 August 2016 - 12:32 AM

The Loxia 21 is quite popular on the Fred Miranda forums
I have no problem with manual focus. I often travel with Loxia 50 and Contax G90. It's fine for non moving subjects at F8


It is a much lesser issue on mirrorless cameras than on historic cameras anyway ... ;-)
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Posted 27 August 2016 - 01:14 AM

It is a much lesser issue on mirrorless cameras than on historic cameras anyway ... ;-)

 

Didn't you forget a pre somewhere?  :D


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Posted 27 August 2016 - 02:54 AM

Let's be fair - SLRs are only a 132 years old concept. ;-)
 

-> C.R. Smith's Monocular Duplex (USA, 1884)


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Posted 27 August 2016 - 11:39 AM

So I guess I am the only one who is not stressed by a manual focus ultra-wide lens ...

 

No, you're not. I do it all the time, not stressed either :).

IMO, AF with wide is much overrated - it takes the deliberate focus on specific subjects and deliberate DoF zones out of the equation many times :).

 

As hyperfocal distance does not really work, contrary to common belief, it means that one has to choose focus very carefully to optimize DoF for exactly those areas one wants to have sharp in focus, even with WA and UWA lenses. This absolutely requires one to focus manually, or manually with some assistance from AF (AF first, than adjust).

 

Of course with TS-Es that is out of the question anyway, MF all the way ;).

 

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