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#1 Klaus

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 09:26 PM

http://www.sony.co.u...meras/ilce-6500

 

The pricing is crazy 

 

1400 USD

1700 EUR


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:29 PM

They don't expect to sell a lot so they priced accordingly. 



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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:04 PM

They don't expect to sell a lot so they priced accordingly. 

 

Well, to be fair - the camera prices are going nuts lately across the board.

It seems as if they are following the motto - half the sales now, so we have to double the price tags.

The upcoming Oly E-M1 II and Pana GH5 seem to be even more expensive.


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Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:07 AM

My guess is Sony can't produce enough sensors, so are starting at a high price.

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:28 AM

Also don't forget that USD & EUR have dropped considerably against the JPY



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 02:47 AM

Bring out the lenses

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 08:31 AM

Just a bit odd to wait till after Photokina to announce it.

 

Everyones favorite feature here (apparently) is still missing: headphone plug. ;)

Biggest issues remain, regrettably: The heavy rolling shutter effect of the A6300 (same sensor so no surprises there) and the wonky compressed RAW format from Sony.

 

Camera is not a replacement fro the A6300, but rather sits above it. The IBIS has added 5mm to the thickness of the camera. A new more durable shutter is included.



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 09:59 AM

Less and less people are buying cameras and many are older, so they have more money in average. So the price increase and the retro trend are quite reasonable.

Actually I do not care so much anymore. I travel a lot and for me a smaller camera is preferable. So I left system cameras behind and use fixed cameras exclusively which gives me much more freedom to choose.

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 11:14 AM

Well, to be fair - the camera prices are going nuts lately across the board.

It seems as if they are following the motto - half the sales now, so we have to double the price tags.

The upcoming Oly E-M1 II and Pana GH5 seem to be even more expensive

 

 

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 For some years now we been getting a lot more camera for our money and getting more than we sometimes need in a camera.

Somewhere down the line something has to give and it could be here that we start to see a move to make camera production more profitable and stand up in it's own right, not just relying on lens profits.

 

 Samsung and Gopro are examples of the failed and the failing and Sony huge though it is, is not immune to market changes.

 Perhaps we're seeing accountants pressure overriding the marketing guys.

 

 Are we getting to the point that we are running put of affordable useful improvements in modern technology? As far as I can see with the X-T2 and the D500 there's not too many roads left to go down, maybe two cameras that are approaching perfection, or at least as we currently know it!



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 11:22 AM

Just a bit odd to wait till after Photokina to announce it.

 

Everyones favorite feature here (apparently) is still missing: headphone plug. ;)

Biggest issues remain, regrettably: The heavy rolling shutter effect of the A6300 (same sensor so no surprises there) and the wonky compressed RAW format from Sony.

 

Camera is not a replacement fro the A6300, but rather sits above it. The IBIS has added 5mm to the thickness of the camera. A new more durable shutter is included.

 Still missing?  Surely omitted to create  built in obsolescence, four models down the road they will finally fit one!  :P  :rolleyes:



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:03 PM

 Still missing?  Surely omitted to create  built in obsolescence, four models down the road they will finally fit one!  :P  :rolleyes:

Well, you know my idea on this already. Because of limited camera real estate they chose not to include a headphone plug (similar to the Panasonic GX8, EOS M5, Fuji X-T2, all with small form factor). Just poking fun above with our earlier discussion ;)



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:27 PM

Hmm... the RX100 (of whatever iteration) are looking more and more enticing as the "carry anywhere" camera - and as a midrange compliment to my wide-and-tele-only DSLR setup. If only they hadn't been so damn expensive...



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:42 PM

Well, to be fair - the camera prices are going nuts lately across the board.

It seems as if they are following the motto - half the sales now, so we have to double the price tags.

The upcoming Oly E-M1 II and Pana GH5 seem to be even more expensive.

 

The camera subsidisation by lenses is gone.

 

Budget cameras are dead and burried for some years and the new bottom end is the old advanced amateur segment. I don't expect to see anything cheaper than 500$ lenses and 1000$ bodies in the next 5 years. 

 

1. Well... good optics cost and there is lots of old glass out there. Same with more complex camera bodies. 

2. They need to cover their production costs. You cannot sell at loss for long and we are well past the event horizon in the camera industry.

 

Nothing new, but not pleasant for consumers. 



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 02:46 PM

Well, you know my idea on this already. Because of limited camera real estate they chose not to include a headphone plug (similar to the Panasonic GX8, EOS M5, Fuji X-T2, all with small form factor). Just poking fun above with our earlier discussion ;)

 This is truly a "where there's a will there's a way" scenario. Unfortunately they are using "where's there's a will there's a won't" instead:

 

  I"m always up for a giggle BC you know that.    What sort of fun can you have without winding up someone about something?



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 06:51 PM

Up to A6300 Sony would sell the body for cheap, but will tax you on (very few) lenses they have. Now they are changing that it seems.

RX100 - They know it is a winner and press on performance and prices as hard as they can. I thought Mk IV is too expensive already, but given the recent increase it sells well I guess.



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Posted 09 October 2016 - 11:25 PM

The damned thing can shoot 60 Fps in RAW,  for God's sake ???. albeit with being able to follow focus.

OK BC, the new big three,

                                           D500...X-T2...A6500.

 

   Notice how I put the D500 first.. :wub:   :P  :D

 

 PS. Normally it's here Tuesday



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Posted 10 October 2016 - 12:58 AM

After 60 frames it will have to cool down a while...

 

At a railway station  I saw an advert for Samsung S7. Saying "Rethink what a phone can do" or something like that.

 

Couldn't help to visualise sparks and explosions...



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Posted 10 October 2016 - 01:14 AM

  Yeah, with modern "No Smoking" regulations.

 

  "Sorry sir, single shots only inside!"


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Posted 10 October 2016 - 09:29 AM

60 fps without global shutter on the sensor means problematic rolling shutter issue. Unless you shoot 60 fps with static subjects.. 



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Posted 10 October 2016 - 06:40 PM

Oooops.. I made a "bad"....... as they say  in these modern times!

 

 

It's the new Olympus OM-D E M1 MkII  that can shoot 60 Fps in RAW.

 

 

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