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#1 Klaus

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 11:19 AM

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 11:23 AM

I'm expecting a sensibly sized 135/2.8 for around 1200$. 

 

Which means I'll probably buy it. Minolta 135/2.8 is one of the lenses I use the most often.



#3 Brightcolours

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 12:21 PM

Is it the Zeiss Batis line where Tamron filed the patents on?



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Posted 28 February 2017 - 12:56 PM

Not officially but they have patents which are pretty much similar to the Batis line. 



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Posted 28 February 2017 - 03:19 PM

My bet is on a 135mm f/2.4 for 1500$


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#6 Rover

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 03:45 PM

I was thinking about an f/2.5 one. :) Let's see who's going to get it right in the end. :)



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Posted 28 February 2017 - 04:08 PM

Okay, why not join the betting? I would like to mention that Zeiss sometimes uses odd FL (like 25 mm, 100 mm, 180 mm) but rarely - if at all - odd apertures. So my guess is rather f/2.8 or f/2.0, but not f/2.4 or 2.5  ^_^



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Posted 28 February 2017 - 09:35 PM

Okay, why not join the betting? I would like to mention that Zeiss sometimes uses odd FL (like 25 mm, 100 mm, 180 mm) but rarely - if at all - odd apertures. So my guess is rather f/2.8 or f/2.0, but not f/2.4 or 2.5  ^_^

 

My Flektogon 35/2.4 would like to have a word :D 

 

Btw, Zeiss uses odd focal length but the thing is, they pretty much always use those. I don't think they ever made a 24mm or a 20mm lens, except for the Sony/Zeiss 24/2 SSM. All else have been at 21/25/28mm, except a few of their zooms.



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Posted 28 February 2017 - 09:54 PM

Flektogon is Zeiss Jena at GDR era, yes?  :P I'm sorry, this era in this state was a lot of improvisation because there was always missing raw materials.

 

In Oberkochen, they went this 15 / 18 / 21 / 25 / 28 path (28 is not that exotic, but the others are) with a 16 mm fisheye, if I remember well. Btw. I didn't realize they made a 200/2 Apo Sonnar  :huh: boah. At the time, my dream was a 180/2.8 Sonnar which would have cost me half a year's income  :(



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Posted 28 February 2017 - 10:02 PM

Let's get the sweepstakes running. :P

Speaking of the "odd" aperture values: just recently we got a 85/2.4 Loxia. Not sure if that might mean anything for another product line though.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 02:02 AM

I guess 135/2.0



#12 toni-a

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 04:42 PM

Would Zeiss make STF lenses? 135mm STF should be in line with new offerings from Fuji and others

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 05:12 PM

Woah woah woah woah... Slow down. They barely started implementing AF!



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 05:13 PM

No. Zeiss makes 2 types of Softar filters - sorry, the used to, today it's rebadged B+W stuff. I'm not sure but they never implemented filter elements inside a lens. That would sabotage their reasoning about the oh-so-impossible-to-make-High-Quality-lenses-with-AF  :lol: They should speak to Sigma and tell them, "all wrong with your 85/1.4 Art, due to AF it simply can't be that good".

 

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And I have no idea, which Fuji lens you're referring to? The 56/1.2 APD is "equivalent" to 84 mm FF. 



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 06:59 PM

I have a Softar II but I haven't used it yet. Bought it just because it came with front and rear caps and the price was the same as buying those two caps so it's a free filter :D



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Posted 02 April 2017 - 05:01 AM

So it'll be a f/2.8
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#17 toni-a

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 06:53 AM

Well a softar now is pointless unless you you don't want to do any post processing with digital or you want to print straight from film without post processing.
Very easy to mimic in PhotoShop, duplicated layer, on the new layer increase exposure or tweak levels to have a brighter more luminous version, apply gaussian blurr, decrease transparency to taste and you're done.
You have more control on the blurr, brightness everything there are even plugins that do it

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 09:09 AM

135/2.8 at the (Zeiss) price point? Looks like a D.O.A. product to me. :o Just like the Loxia 85/2.4 that makes almost zero sense in the presence of the Batis 85/1.8.

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 05:03 AM

Boring lens.  A compact 200mm 2.8 would have been a nice alternative to the $4000 AUD 1.5kg 70-200mm F2.8



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Posted 05 April 2017 - 01:01 PM

$2000 ! wow that is stupid

 

 

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