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#1 Brightcolours

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 11:25 PM

http://www.nokishita...is-stm.html?m=1

 

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1:1 macro

macro LED light

MFD 13cm (working distance at MFD 3cm)

10 elements in 6 groups

190 grams

Hybrid IS

The silent STM type



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Posted 04 April 2017 - 08:20 AM

No filter thread?

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 08:47 AM

No filter thread?

Similar to the EF-M 28mm IS STM f3.5 macro. They both have a design to minimise the frontal area, to prevent shading as much as possible at MFD, while at the same time providing the possibility of illumination by the built in LEDs. They provide a lens hood which has filter threads. In case of the EF-M 28mm f3.8 IS STM macro it is the ES-22 with 43mm filter thread, and in case of this EF-S 35mm f2.8 IS STM macro it is the ES-27 with 49mm filter thread.



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Posted 04 April 2017 - 05:26 PM

Only thing I didn't like is STM and focus by wire, this is simply not practical for macro.
You do need manual focus and you do need the focus distance written on the lens.
Dunno why they opted for focus by wire on a macro lens

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 05:56 PM

Only thing I didn't like is STM and focus by wire, this is simply not practical for macro.
You do need manual focus and you do need the focus distance written on the lens.
Dunno why they opted for focus by wire on a macro lens

Focus by wire works well on some STM lenses (in my experience the EF-S 10-18mm and EF-M 18-55mm work well, 22mm f2 a bit less so). So as long as it works responsively, it should be ok for macro.

I have NO idea why you would need a focus distance scale written on the lens for macro photography, though. You ALWAYS check focus in the OVF or live view LCD, so no need ever for a distance scale.

 

For silent, accurate and fast live view action, they opt for STM. Logical choice. STM lenses have focus by wire, because they lack the gearing to make AF/M switching impossible.



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Posted 06 April 2017 - 04:44 PM

MSRP $349.99.

 

https://www.usa.cano...-8-macro-is-stm

 

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One aspherical element:

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In my opinion a welcome return of 35mm macro for Canon APS-C, after the demise of the Tokina 35mm f2.8 DX Macro.



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Posted 06 April 2017 - 05:01 PM

http://cweb.canon.jp...-stm/index.html



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Posted 07 April 2017 - 10:12 AM

I can't say I like how Canon's site presents the lens.  If it were not for all of your comments I might have missed the hood/filter threads issue.  Of course Canon users are familiar with the focus by wire limitations.  I'm not overly thrilled, that a macro lens comes with the MFD of 130mm given, and they fail to mention the MOD is more like 30mm(?).  LEDs aren't exactly flashes, and I guess the use of flashes will be a bit tricky. But maybe the LED's + IS will be more than enough.  Stopping way down might not be as critical.  

 

That's the bad news.  The good news is it is definitely a tempting lens which I would love to try :D

 

With IS, a metal mount, silent AF - anyways one can always focus by moving the camera -and a reasonable price, I have little doubts that I will get one!  I had some doubts about STM in the beginning.  I can't say I've experienced focusing problems.  I'm going to predict this is going to be a great lens! 



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Posted 07 April 2017 - 10:40 AM

I can't say I like how Canon's site presents the lens.  If it were not for all of your comments I might have missed the hood/filter threads issue.  Of course Canon users are familiar with the focus by wire limitations.  I'm not overly thrilled, that a macro lens comes with the MFD of 130mm given, and they fail to mention the MOD is more like 30mm(?).  

It is about the FOV. If you want a wider FOV for macro, you need a short focal length. A short focal length comes with a small working distance, always.

 

So, you have the choice.

28mm (EOS M), 35mm (EF-S), 60mm (EF-S), 100mm, 180mm. A FOV choice. 

 

I am overly thrilled by this lens, in the sense that if I still had an APS-C DSLR I would get this lens for its wide FOV for close ups, in a heartbeat. Lovely. 

 

At the moment I use a 55mm f3.5 macro on my FF camera, for close ups. Similar FOV. And 90mm and 200mm ;)

 

I may get the 28mm one for my EOS M sometime in future, or even this new 35mm. With IS they even make nice video lenses...



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Posted 07 April 2017 - 12:15 PM

It is about the FOV. If you want a wider FOV for macro, you need a short focal length. A short focal length comes with a small working distance, always.

 

So, you have the choice.

28mm (EOS M), 35mm (EF-S), 60mm (EF-S), 100mm, 180mm. A FOV choice. 

 

I am overly thrilled by this lens, in the sense that if I still had an APS-C DSLR I would get this lens for its wide FOV for close ups, in a heartbeat. Lovely. 

 

At the moment I use a 55mm f3.5 macro on my FF camera, for close ups. Similar FOV. And 90mm and 200mm ;)

 

I may get the 28mm one for my EOS M sometime in future, or even this new 35mm. With IS they even make nice video lenses...

Try it on a FF body through an extension tube - it might work. The working distance might become a problem though.



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Posted 07 April 2017 - 02:11 PM

Try it on a FF body through an extension tube - it might work. The working distance might become a problem though.

I already have that for FF (the 35mm f2.8 equivalent FOV wise), the Micro-Nikkor 55mm f3.5. Since it is a 55mm lens, the working distance is bigger. Not IF though, so the extension of the lens reduces the working distance becomes 5-6cm at !:1, which a much larger lens diameter providing shading, and no built in LEDs.

 

I just think being able to do the same with the EOS M might be neat.



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Posted 07 April 2017 - 05:46 PM

Maybe I am on of the rare that love macro lenses, I own and frequently use a macro lens, but very  I do macro.

why because of the colors and optical quality, especially at close  focus distance, for close head-shots on full frame I can immediately tell which one was taken with my 100mm macro, I did once a comparo for portraits vs 24-105L at f4 both the difference was abvious.

Hope this one would be on the same level of optical quality



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Posted 10 April 2017 - 07:15 AM

Late to the thread, but I'm very interested in this. I almost got an M for its similar macro, but I can't justify getting an M.


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 08:51 PM

Maybe I shouldn't name names but I happened to glance at Petapixel's little demo of the lens being used on a diamond ring with and without using the built in lights.  Well, yeah, we get what the lights are for, but I couldn't believe all of the sarcasm and criticism of the lens.  Now, it may be some time before I get my hands on one, but how can you complain if this lens comes even close to the quality of Canon's other macros, and at this price point? 

 

I was a little afraid I would be lamb-basted for my unabashed enthusiasm for this lens w/o actually having any experience with it.  My concern is not with the working distance, BTW, I just with manufacturers would give you all of the pertinent specs for their products.  It's nothing unexpected, and I didn't bother to see if the hood comes with the lens or not.  I shouldn't have to!  With a lens like this, I know from experience that you want to have the hood to protect the front of the lens from collisions.  I did see that the sell an optional lens cap that will fit both on the hood, and and the lens.  I know Canon does not normally hand out hoods with their non-L lenses, but this is a special case since the lens is not fully functional with out the hood, so maybe the do include the hood...then make up for it by selling you the special cap!

 

But that's just a little griping.  I am totally hoping to get my hands on one!



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:15 AM

There is so little working distance and risk of shading I wouldn't use a hood except for distant subjects, even if the built in lights might mitigate some of the shading concern. I find even a protection filter is too thick at times...


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 09:04 AM

The hood is for when you use the lens for "infinity" stuff rather than macro. And when you want to use filters, like a pol. filter for instance.






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