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Next PZ lens test report: Nikkor AF-S 300mm f/4E PF VR (FX)


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#1 mst

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 07:56 PM

Sorry, it took a little longer than planned (as usual ;) )
 
http://www.opticalli...orafs3004pfvrff

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 09:31 PM

Ouch... that flare is really nasty. I can figure out a number of circumstances in which it would have ruined a photo of mine. But I understand you have to pay for the compact size in some way.

 

Funny that Nikon is not able yet to design an effective tripod collar... I remember when, with my AF-S 300 f/4, I had to stuck a rubber cylinder between the collar foot and the lens barrel (I later bought a replacement collar from RRS). 


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 09:46 PM

It's not the collar what sucks mostly (although, at the price of around 200 bucks acouple of things should be improved). It is the plastic ring underneath it. Yes the one of the lens which is creating that wobbly connection. I can't see how a 3rd party improves that in another way than just costing ⅓ of Nikon's crappy accessory. Best thing of the collar? The lens is so lightweight you don't need one  :D

 

Nikon loves wobbly connections. All their battery grips have to be removed when using a tripod.

 

Back to the lens. I bought mine at a a time I was pissed impatient by Sigma's delivery time of the 150-600. and convinced I need after years of wide-angles a long tele. Any regrets on my side? Except it's good to forget the price of this "Made in China" jewel, none. I always wanted to compare it with the Tamron G2 but I have to admit, the thrill of comparisons has left my place. ^_^  



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 05:33 AM

Pity, you haven't tested the "old" version. I suspect it too be still better in terms of contrast and sharpness.



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 08:52 AM

  Good review of an interesting but ferociously expensive lens!

 

 The VR problem is not confined to this lens alone, my 70-300mm VRII does the same around 1/160 the sec. frankly you avoid between 1/100-1/200th and your fine.

 

   Flare though is a howler...ouch!



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 09:45 AM

In only use it without backlight.

 

In the rain it's fine  :lol:

 

Hey dave, last weekend I played around with a Sigma 500/4 sports. Terrific! Only weak spot: At this price, they could have put the TS-81 tripod foot in the package.



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 10:27 AM

What a rollercoaster ride of a review. :) There's a word I hated when I was working as a translator, and it's the word "controversial". It looks like an apt description for this lens. :)

Pity, you haven't tested the "old" version. I suspect it too be still better in terms of contrast and sharpness.

Maybe Markus will get to it someday, like he tested the similar Tokina.  ;)


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:08 AM

Actually we did test the old Nikkor back in the stone-age

 

http://www.opticalli...ew--test-report


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:49 AM

Aaah, was searching only in FF.

 

So, Markus, you will test it on APS-C... oooh, had no idea how fast you could run  :D impressive.



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:56 AM

In only use it without backlight.

 

In the rain it's fine  :lol:

 

Hey dave, last weekend I played around with a Sigma 500/4 sports. Terrific! Only weak spot: At this price, they could have put the TS-81 tripod foot in the package.

At around half the price of the Nikon 500mm the Sigma is a no brainer, the only advantage of the former is it's a little lighter in weight, the rest performs the same, I would have liked to try out some of that glass.

  The main problem I'm finding with 500-600mm FL is finding suitable clear and cool weather to shoot in, I first take a test shot to see whether shooting over 30 meters is going to produce sharp results, very often it doesn't!



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:57 AM

:D

Well, JoJu... some day, I might. But there's way more important work to be done in the DX review section than the PF Nikkor ;)

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:01 PM

Aaah, was searching only in FF.

 

So, Markus, you will test it on APS-C... oooh, had no idea how fast you could run  :D impressive.

Don't send him back under the table, last time it took several years to winkle him out again  :P

 

  Actually the older AF-S 300mm F4 lens is a goodie and can be found for €800, no real flare issues either.....not so sure about purple fringing though! 

  

 Oh and of course it's metal..........nice!



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:29 PM

But the tripod collar is even worse... it's the same design used on the AF-D 80-400 VR.

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:50 PM

The Canon 400mm f4 DO II, with its new DO elements innovation, does not show similar flare issues:

http://www.pcmag.com...-4-do-is-ii-usm



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 01:00 PM

Oh and of course it's metal..........nice!


So, you're offering yourself as a sherpa? Kind move.
 

But the tripod collar is even worse... it's the same design used on the AF-D 80-400 VR.

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Yeah, and because it's a heavy device, one need a collar...

 

But still, using it on a, say, Fuji with a adaptor the old version has the advantage of a mechanical aperture. While the new China toy comes with an electronically driven aperture.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 01:17 PM

Yeah, and because it's a heavy device, one need a collar...


Yes... I remember using that lens once, and that copy had a Kirk or RRS collar. Very solid construction that supported the lens both in the front and back. But also quite huge, of course. And ugly, too ;)

I do have an AF-S 300 in the lab, btw... just not the AF-S 300/4 :)

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 12:10 AM

Don't send him back under the table, last time it took several years to winkle him out again  :P

 

  Actually the older AF-S 300mm F4 lens is a goodie and can be found for €800, no real flare issues either.....not so sure about purple fringing though! 

  

 Oh and of course it's metal..........nice!

 I have this lens...the AF-S 300 F4D. I was testing it on my new D7200 tonight. It is excellent and purple fringing is no problem at all.

   It is heavy and very solid...and I cannot fault it's optical quality. It focuses fairly quickly too. I bought it because I find none of the Nikon 70-300 zooms acceptable...so I ended up with the 300 and the 70-200 F4 ED VR which is just fantastic for a zoom to me.

 

 The 70-200 lives on my D500 and a 24-70 f2.8G ED is the default lens for the 7200. I find it's quality to be merely acceptable but

   it is nice to have the flexibility in that range of focal lengths.

 

 I would never get the new fresnel 300...I fully understand the appeal of the low weight...however the compromises are not acceptable to me. I think the old version is better all round...except for weight!!!






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