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#1 toni-a

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:01 PM

Canon EFs 17-55f2,8 was and still is my preferred  lens, never let me down, always delivering excellent performance. Tried many others they slightly  beat it in some areas, however generally speaking this is the best lens I have used.

I own it since 2006 and since then it has been my main lens, it survived three camera bodies and took more than 200.000 pictures, I traveled a lot with it and it has been through very harsh conditions, now it's showing signs of deterioration from long heavy use, I think it did its job and it deserves retiring.

Should I buy it new again ?? or you have any other decent suggestion ?



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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:03 PM

Canon EFs 17-55f2,8 was and still is my preferred  lens, never let me down, always delivering excellent performance. Tried many others they slightly  beat it in some areas, however generally speaking this is the best lens I have used.

I own it since 2006 and since then it has been my main lens, it survived three camera bodies and took more than 200.000 pictures, I traveled a lot with it and it has been through very harsh conditions, now it's showing signs of deterioration from long heavy use, I think it did its job and it deserves retiring.

Should I buy it new again ?? or you have any other decent suggestion ?

 

What signs of deterioration does it show?

If it's nothing critical and if it's not broken then just keep on shooting it.

I have an old Tamron 17-50/2.8 that has been through countless backpacking trips and is definitely aging, but it still takes tack sharp photos.  And that's all that matters.



#3 toni-a

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:22 PM

Well it is still good but it's starting to feel loose in my hands, with some cracking when zooming, it has done its expected job very well.  Lenses don't last forever.



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 08:56 AM

I understand what do you mean. I have similar lens with similar experience - old Tamron 17-50/2,8 XR DI2. The lens starts to wear out, at the same time I sow second hand lens for 150Euro. The lens was in mint condition – the seller has switched from dSLR to mirrorless.

 

My suggestion – Buy the same again – remember never change the winning team.



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 10:18 AM

My suggestion – Buy the same again – remember never change the winning team.

 

In consequence, that would mean keep the lens you already have, because that IS the team with the body. A new lens, although same specifications and type, could have centerring issues or other troubles one only can discover after the deal is done.

 

I would go as far to say: Buy ten identical 50 mm lenses and check AFMA, you will get 10 different values. So, if toni is happy with the lens' performance and handling, get a new one, but treat it as every new lens. It will not be the same like the existing one. The wear of 200k pictures (when do look at them again?) is nothing the new will have.



#6 Brightcolours

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:57 AM

My Canon Powershot S30 was pretty "winning" at the time. Glad I have changed that "winning team", as things certainly have progressed! 



#7 dave's clichés

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:20 PM

     Even my Powershot S80 works fine! 



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Posted 24 June 2017 - 08:55 AM

I was shocked to have learned about the AF inconsistency that is apparently innate to the 17-55... I would've shrugged it off as F.U.D., but it mirrors my own experience with the lens. Up until recently, I still had some abnormally blurred photos made with that lens (because I was not duly diligent when culling the photos the first time around). I blamed it all on the camera, the 30D which I hated anyways, but in hindsight... it may not have been entirely its fault, even though that behaviour continued with other lenses after the 17-55 went to the marketplace and never returned...

See the post by user "Archibald": https://www.fredmira...9665/1#14032601 and my reply on page 3.



#9 toni-a

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 05:20 AM

On 30D never had the slightest AF problem. On 750D it was a nightmare with back focus in every shot, sent to AF calibration with camera much better but still slight back focus no issues at all with live view, no issues at all with 7D Witt AF compensation. I was considering getting a new one that would be perfect like was mine in 30D days.
Or should I ask the repairs for a slight AF adjustment -1 that would take a minute to be done (that he will do for free but I have to drive there in horrific traffic)

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 05:02 PM

Interesting.  I just returned from a 7-week trip with my T6i and Canon 17-55/2.8.  A significant portion of my shots is front-focused.  Last year I took my T6i and Tamron 17-50/2.8 and again a significant amount of shots were front-focused.  This winter I was shooting with my T6i and Canon 55-250 mk1 and again some shots were inexplicably front-focused.  The effect is similar to that in the Fred Miranda link posted by Rover.

 

In the past I had a 7D which focused my Tamron 17-50 and Canon 55-250 perfectly, and front-focused my Canon 17-55 when focus was at infinity (headshots were fine).

 

All these lenses worked fine on my 400D.  I never had an issue.

 

All this has been very frustrating.  When you buy a new camera you think you are getting the latest and the greatest, but in terms of autofocus it has been a step backward each time for me.  I checked for firmware updates for my T6i but there are none (camera is running 1.0.0)

 

FWIW live-view gets focus dead-on every time but I hate using it



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Posted 05 July 2017 - 06:00 PM

All AF systems which focus at the sensor's level are usually more accurate and reilable, no matter which lens. All indirect AF systems, meaning the whole gang of DSLRs need to be adjusted by yourself, like the hands of a watch, just in a more time consuming method. And only reducing the ammount of bad focused shots. Some always will happen.

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Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:05 PM

With my T6i and 17-55/2.8 I'd say 40% of shots are correctly focused.  Another 40% are slightly front-focused and the last 20% are way, way front focused (e.g. infinity landscape shot and the foreground 1-2 m away is in sharpest focus).  This is for simple, static scenes.  I'm not talking about trying to follow action with servo mode and thin DOF.

 

So it's not just a matter of dialing in a bit of AFMA.  I did set AFMA on my 7D but the values for close focus and infinity focus were different.  The T6i doesn't have AFMA.

 

The focus errors are always front-focus, and never rear-focus.  My error rate seems worse with the polarizer on.  Bright/low light doesn't seem to matter.

 

I do wonder if DPAF is the panacea, or yet another gimmick?  I do like bokeh but not across the whole frame...



#13 toni-a

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Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:45 PM

With my T6i and 17-55/2.8 I'd say 40% of shots are correctly focused. Another 40% are slightly front-focused and the last 20% are way, way front focused (e.g. infinity landscape shot and the foreground 1-2 m away is in sharpest focus). This is for simple, static scenes. I'm not talking about trying to follow action with servo mode and thin DOF.

So it's not just a matter of dialing in a bit of AFMA. I did set AFMA on my 7D but the values for close focus and infinity focus were different. The T6i doesn't have AFMA.

The focus errors are always front-focus, and never rear-focus. My error rate seems worse with the polarizer on. Bright/low light doesn't seem to matter.

I do wonder if DPAF is the panacea, or yet another gimmick? I do like bokeh but not across the whole frame...

I've got the same issues here, so getting a new lens won't solve the issue, using live view the focus is always spot on, otherwise expect front focus, I sent it for AF calibration they found nothing, sent it again and asked to correct front focus they said it's fine, asked him to make it back focus, it got better but not 100% on 7D with AFMA things are much better but not like with my 50f1.4 for instance




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