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#1 mst

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 07:34 AM

... the manufacturer of this lens, no? ;)

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 09:10 AM

Not much worse than Sigma or Nikon (not to say "practically the very same"), so what do you try to tell us?  :)



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Posted 08 August 2017 - 09:14 AM

"not much worse"? Both the Sigma and the Nikkor are far from 3 stops wide open, and still do better at f/2...

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 09:16 AM

I'm more of a visual person. If a graph goes up to 2.1, I don't read the numbers, because I'm no big fan of redundant information. Sure, I could have read the numbers - but why using graphs then?

 

This kind of reading/interpretation error will happen to other people, too.



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Posted 08 August 2017 - 09:22 AM

That's a valid claim, but when we initially set the scale, we honestly did not expect many lenses to go well beyond 2.1 stops. And to maintain comparability with other reviews, I don't really want to change the scale.

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 09:48 AM

Then you will have to learn to live with comments like mine, although it's my short eyesight.

 

If you don't want to change the range of the scale, how do you deal with critics like "at first look the lenses are the same"?

 

"okay, maybe the world is not flat, but I really don't want to change the maps..."  :lol:

 

These diagrams werde made to provide a quick comparison, without reading and learning the numbers. If a lens goes out of the range of the diagram, it's not fairt aganst the ones which are inside and just so at it's limits.



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Posted 08 August 2017 - 09:53 AM

Well, that's why we usually also provide a little bit of text to go with the graphs... ;)

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 09:59 AM

That went well with my reading...  :ph34r:



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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:00 AM

  ZEISS!



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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:10 AM

Bingo! ;)
 

@JoJu: better? ;)

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:21 AM

Is very betta, Masta Testa!


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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:31 AM

:D


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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:34 AM

 ............I've always winced when looking at their vignetting figures!

 

......so this lens is F4.2 in the corners!.....impressive..  :o   or ouch?

 

 I suppose it saves you adjusting the exposure you just put the subject closer to the frame edge!

   

     



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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:36 AM

you will never experience overexposed edges, come on... people are buying gradient filters for something like that.

 

And I mean, with all that 35/1.4 lenses htting the market (only 50/1.4 are available in more choices) soemone has to make a unique selling point!

 

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 11:09 AM

     Simply put it's a poor result from the worlds most reputed lens maker!

 

   I never did test the Zeiss 150mm F4.5 Tessar fitted to my Linhoff 4X5" plate camera, I'm sure it was very nice in spite of it being up against such a frame size............

 

   ........maybe I will find out soon as I sold it to someone close by who is soon to put it into action!

 

  both it and the Nikon FM3a are gone!



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Posted 08 August 2017 - 02:07 PM

Zeiss 35 F1.4?



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Posted 08 August 2017 - 02:55 PM

One of the Milvus-series. I don't think, Markus tested a Distagon 35/1.4 T*

 

https://www.zeiss.co...ilvus-1435.html



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Posted 08 August 2017 - 03:22 PM

Well... he did ;) It's the Classic ZF.2 35/1.4

 

So far, I unfortunately haven't been offered any Milvus lens...

 

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 03:24 PM

So you went to the next museum to get a Distagon. Cute.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:06 AM

  It will be interesting to see if the Samyang's 35mm F1.4 resolution beats it on the FF edges, as shown in the Lenstip review.

 

  The Zeiss suffers from mediocre coma, polygonal bokeh,strong vignetting and flare.....

 

       

 

   The Samyang equals and betters the Zeiss's resolution at the edges and corners and has almost no flare, both suffer from LoCAs, the Zeiss quite horribly........when it comes to vignetting the Samyang beats nearly all the competition Canon Nikon etc.

 

    Only the build quality can't match or approach the Zeiss, but neither does price!

 

   All in all the Zeiss is now showing it's optical age!






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