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#1 hassiman

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 01:56 AM

Hi,
I am considering a Nikon D7000 and I need suggestions for the best all around lens to use with it...
From wide to telephoto.

I want a well built lens that has really good optical quality and ... And this might seem strange... One I can manually set ti
Infinity with a focusing index

Any opinion?

How is the D7000?

#2 genotypewriter

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 04:38 AM

Hi,
I am considering a Nikon D7000 and I need suggestions for the best all around lens to use with it...
From wide to telephoto.

I want a well built lens that has really good optical quality and ... And this might seem strange... One I can manually set ti
Infinity with a focusing index

Any opinion?

There's no way you can get quality and flexibility in one lens. If there's such a thing there's no need for primes. If primes solved all problems then there's no need for zooms. But they both exist. And there's no one zoom that does it all.


How is the D7000?

Take a look:
http://www.google.co...R D7000 problem


GTW
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#3 backcountryskier

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 05:59 AM

Quality+range: 16-85/3.5-5.6 VR

Enjoy - it's a nice lens.

#4 deroppi

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 07:59 AM

I'd vote for the AF-S 16-85VR as well.
The "cheapest" Quality Zoom you can get.
http://www.photozone...kor_1685_3556vr
I wouldn't want to miss my prime anyway...

There was not a single camera that did not have "a lot of problems" reported when it came out or even before.
And there was not a single camera that did not have at least a few happy users.
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#5 Lomskij

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 09:48 AM

Got a D7000 for a friend recently, shot a few hundred frames for testing - really nice small camera, definitely worthy D90 replacement. After some consideration, the walk around lens of the choice became Sigma 17-70 2.8-4 OS. Reason - faster by 1 stop, smoother bokeh, "almost macro" and costs 300 eur :P Plus a 50mm 1.8 to accompany it.

Tried that underexposing thing by the way, shot at -6 stops (jpg looked black) and iso 100, then recovered from raw. Tonal range of recovered image was visibly poorer (somewhat similar to point and shoot cameras), but definitely usable.

Yeah, and take a look:
http://www.google.co... "I am a troll"
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Posted 09 March 2011 - 11:03 AM

Take a look:
http://www.google.co...R D7000 problem

GTW


Cooool genotypewriter. Very cool.

As I said in another thread: subtle... very subtle but also very obvious. Sometimes there is a smell... a bad smell coming from your replies. Sometimes nauseating.
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#7 Martin_MM

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 11:54 AM

Take a look:
http://www.google.co...R D7000 problem


GTW



OMG, what is this? Linking own Google search with terms "D7000" and "problem" to answer the question what is D7000 like... You are a real Canon brand fundamentalist, indeed.

Yes, your replies stink more and more, true point.
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#8 ThomasD

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 12:58 PM

Hi,
I am considering a Nikon D7000 and I need suggestions for the best all around lens to use with it...
From wide to telephoto.

I want a well built lens that has really good optical quality and ... And this might seem strange... One I can manually set ti
Infinity with a focusing index

Any opinion?

How is the D7000?

The 16-85VR is a very nice lens.

You do not say why you want the D7000. If you have no Nikon camera or lenses yet, then instead of searching for the right lens for a specific camera, you should first find out what lenses you potentially want to have and decide on the system first. Cameras from all brands tend to converge in terms of features and price. So do lenses, but there are always small differences in line-up between Canon and Nikon, for example.
Canon's 17-55/2.8 is widely considered superior to Nikon's equivalent. Nikon has a very good 35/1.8 for DX, Canon has no such thing.

That said, the Nikon system is very good overall. Just keep in mind that you will most probably -- earlier than you might think -- want more than this one lens.

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 01:08 PM

...
Take a look:
http://www.google.co...R+D7000+problem

GTW


That's odd, GTW... I think you forgot to address the links for 60D, 600D, 550D, 7D (your specific google search of course)... What happened to this forum, really....

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#10 ThomasD

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 01:16 PM

Cooool genotypewriter. Very cool.

As I said in another thread: subtle... very subtle but also very obvious. Sometimes there is a smell... a bad smell coming from your replies. Sometimes nauseating.



OMG, what is this? Linking own Google search with terms "D7000" and "problem" to answer the question what is D7000 like... You are a real Canon brand fundamentalist, indeed.

Yes, your replies stink more and more, true point.



That's odd, GTW... I think you forgot to address the links for 60D, 600D, 550D, 7D (your specific google search of course)... What happened to this forum, really....

Serkan


While all of you may be right, there is always the possibility to vote a certain post down in order to express your opinion about its quality.
People acting as the forum's police without offering any on-topic contribution are not better than the fanboys (or fan warlords), IMHO.
If you still insist on the questionable idea of a flame war involving certain people instead of ignoring or replying on the topic (at least the latter post by PuxaVida goes in that direction), please open a dedicated thread in the "Photozone: Just Talk" section.
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#11 PuxaVida

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 01:17 PM

Hi,
I am considering a Nikon D7000 and I need suggestions for the best all around lens to use with it...
From wide to telephoto.

I want a well built lens that has really good optical quality and ... And this might seem strange... One I can manually set ti
Infinity with a focusing index

Any opinion?

How is the D7000?


Why limit yourself by only one "all around lens". These usually don't have better optics (like the 18-200VR). So as I always answer these kind of questions, check the 18-200mm VR if you want tele range and only one lens. But if you don't want to limit yourself with only one lens: DX 16-85mm VR and 70-300mm VR...

Serkan

#12 PuxaVida

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 01:20 PM

While all of you may be right, there is always the possibility to vote a certain post down in order to express your opinion about its quality.
People acting as the forum's police without offering any on-topic contribution are not better than the fanboys (or fan warlords), IMHO.
If you still insist on the questionable idea of a flame war involving certain people instead of ignoring or replying on the topic (at least the latter post by PuxaVida goes in that direction), please open a dedicated thread in the "Photozone: Just Talk" section.


Please check my post below... which is within context and includes a suggestion... Please curb your enthusiasm before pointing out people...

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 01:26 PM

Canon's 17-55/2.8 is widely considered superior to Nikon's equivalent. Nikon has a very good 35/1.8 for DX, Canon has no such thing.


The Canon 17-55 f2.8 is only considered to be superior "widely" because it offers IS, where the Nikon is VR-less. Optically, both lenses are pretty good.

As for Canon having "no such thing" as the Nikon 35mm f1.8 DX, that is not very true at all. The Canon EF 35mm f2 is only 1/3rd of a stop slower in f-value rating. It is the same size and price. Optically it is not inferior either, or maybe the Nikon is a tad more contrasty and maybe a bit more resilient to veiling due to newer coatings.
The Canon renders OOF areas smoother (nicer bokeh), the Nikon has round highlights where the Canon has 5 sided ones. The Nikon has more CA (of the lateral variety).

Since both are 35mm, f2 vs f1.8, the same size and the same weight, it is safe to say both makers offer a very similar lens.

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 01:33 PM

Please check my post below... which is within context and includes a suggestion... Please curb your enthusiasm before pointing out people...

Sorry, you posted it while I was typing, so I was not aware of it. Also, please re-read my rant to see that I positively pointed out your post :). No personal offence was intended, after all.

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 01:44 PM

Hi,
I am considering a Nikon D7000 and I need suggestions for the best all around lens to use with it...
From wide to telephoto.

I want a well built lens that has really good optical quality and ... And this might seem strange... One I can manually set ti
Infinity with a focusing index

Any opinion?

How is the D7000?

The Nikon D7000 is a fine APS-C DSLR.

DSLRs are there to offer you flexibility and diversity of lenses... you can easily take them off and put others on, to make the camera adjust itself to changing requirements and conditions.

The catch is that what you want, does not exist. There is no lens with wide to telephoto which offers "really good optical quality". There are two lenses that stand out a bit among the "super zoom lenses": the very expensive Canon EF 28-300mm L for full frame and the Leica 14-150mm for 4/3rds. And even they are still limited.

So, you will have to make a choice. Do you find the optical quality more important, or do you insist on having just one superzoom, which basically will limit your D7000's potential (image quality wise).

Personally, I would rather go for the better lenses. Which would mean Sigma 17-70mm f2.8-4 OS, Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 OS, or Nikon 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 VR. I probably would choose the fastest lens myself.
And I would then combine that with a standard 70-300 lens, probably the Tamron 70-300mm f4-5.6 VC.

If you value the all-in-one-ness more that optical performance, then I would probably look at the Tamron 18-270 VC, as it is a bit sharper than the Nikon 18-200 VR, and the D7000 has quite a high resolution. The Nikon will focus faster. though.

All lenses show the infinity mark, but when you set a lens to that mark does not have to mean it really is set to infinity.
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#16 ThomasD

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 01:48 PM

The Canon 17-55 f2.8 is only considered to be superior "widely" because it offers IS, where the Nikon is VR-less. Optically, both lenses are pretty good.

I remember having read the Canon was sharper wide open, but I might be wrong. Thanks for correcting me in favor of Nikon ;).

As for Canon having "no such thing" as the Nikon 35mm f1.8 DX, that is not very true at all. The Canon EF 35mm f2 is only 1/3rd of a stop slower in f-value rating. It is the same size and price. Optically it is not inferior either, or maybe the Nikon is a tad more contrasty and maybe a bit more resilient to veiling due to newer coatings.

I referred to "specific for DX". But you are right, this does not matter in the end. The Nikon also has AF-S, but unfortunately no distance scale.

The Canon renders OOF areas smoother (nicer bokeh), the Nikon has round highlights where the Canon has 5 sided ones.

Well. Let's keep that in the other thread.

The Nikon has more CA (of the lateral variety).

That's certainly true.

#17 Lomskij

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 02:48 PM

The catch is that what you want, does not exist. There is no lens with wide to telephoto which offers "really good optical quality".

Here you go:

http://nikonrumors.c...-VRII-lens.jpeg
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#18 PuxaVida

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 04:00 PM

Here you go:

http://nikonrumors.c...-VRII-lens.jpeg


But it's still "black"...:D

#19 Lomskij

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 04:16 PM

But it's still "black"...:D

You're sooo racist :blink: :lol:
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Posted 09 March 2011 - 05:43 PM

I fear the thread is skidding...
anyway most of the answers are quite accurate,
the perfect all around-lens doesn't exist,
you'll have to make a choice what's important for you,
the biggest range...a 18-200(270)mm ? (=hollyday lens?)
a compremise between range and quality...a 18-125(135)mm (all purpose "cheap")
no compremise in quality...a 15(18)-85mm (all purpose "expensive")
no compremise and low-light/low DOF possiblity...a 17-50(55)mmf2.8 (=wedding-lens?)

all depends what you expect the lens to perform...

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