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Panasonic G9 & Leica 200mm f/2.8 announced - Klaus - 11-09-2017
Quote:Let me fix that for you
- Pany 200 f2.8: 8,75 x 17.4 cm, 1245g, $3000
- Canon 200 f2.8: 8.38 x 13.72 cm, 765g, $750
- Canon 400 f5.6: 9 x 25.6 cm, 1250g, $1250
Doesn't change much about the conclusion, though. Yep, insanely expensive, even though it comes with a free TC...
The Oly 300mm f/4 is "just" 2500USD.
The Leica 100-400mm is pretty much the bargain alternative at 1800USD ( ... or 1300USD locally ...
)Seriously 3k$? That's 1k too much no matter how you look at this.
It's even more weird when considering the fairly reasonable costs for the new Leica zoom lenses (8-18mm, 12-60mm). The upcoming 50-200mm f/2.8-4 is probably also in the same ballpark as those.
Panasonic G9 & Leica 200mm f/2.8 announced - Klaus - 11-09-2017
Conversely ... the Sigma 16mm f/1.4 is now listed at just 449USD!
Panasonic G9 & Leica 200mm f/2.8 announced - wim - 11-09-2017
Quote:The Oly 300mm f/4 is "just" 2500USD.It appears to be very good, actually. See official Pana MTF chart below
The Leica 100-400mm is pretty much the bargain alternative at 1800USD ( ... or 1300USD locally ...
Seriously 3k$? That's 1k too much no matter how you look at this.
It's even more weird when considering the fairly reasonable costs for the new Leica zoom lenses (8-18mm, 12-60mm). The upcoming 50-200mm f/2.8-4 is probably also in the same ballpark as those.
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Some reviews:
http://www.photobyrichard.com/reviewbyrichard/leica-200mm-f2-8-review/
https://www.lumixgexperience.panasonic.co.uk/news/panasonic-leica-dg-elmarit-200mm-f2-8-power-o-i-s-sample-images-and-brief-review/#.WgTByIiQzmH
Check the 100% crop bird's head in the second review; I think it is page 2..
Whether it is expensive, too expensive, or just right in the end is a matter of whether people who think they need it will indeed buy one.
As to some of the comparisons made: the "equivalent" EF 400 F/5.6 L is very old, and has no IS. A new version with IS would likely come in at around $2000 if not more.
However, it still is a 200 mm F/2.8 lens, and a pro version for that matter.
Personally, I will not likely buy one. I don't shoot at 400 mm equivalent very much, and besides, I do happen to have a Canon 100-400L IS II, and a bunch of Metabones adapters, for the occasion I do need to do so.
Kind regards, Wim
Panasonic G9 & Leica 200mm f/2.8 announced - Klaus - 11-09-2017
Well, the Nikkor 300mm f/4 VR PF is brand new and costs half that money (used on an APS-C DSLR for comparison).
And it's actually also half the weight.
As much as I like MFT, it's WAY over the top.
Panasonic G9 & Leica 200mm f/2.8 announced - borisbg - 11-10-2017
Latest offerings of Oly and Pany grew in size and weight big time, let alone the prices. Their top cameras entered the territory of APS-C format for sure, or Sony A7 bodies. I just checked at camerasize.com and found this:
Sony A7R III [657 g] weights 14% (83 grams) more than Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II [574 g] (*inc. batteries and memory card).
and this:
http://camerasize.com/compact/#724.395,692.614,ha,t
Panasonic G9 & Leica 200mm f/2.8 announced - davidmanze - 11-10-2017
Ephotozine has already got sample images of the lens, which means an imminent review!
https://www.ephotozine.com/article/leica-dg-elmarit-200mm-f-2-8-power-ois-sample-photos-31620
Panasonic G9 & Leica 200mm f/2.8 announced - Klaus - 11-10-2017
Quote: Latest offerings of Oly and Pany grew in size and weight big time, let alone the prices. Their top cameras entered the territory of APS-C format for sure, or Sony A7 bodies. I just checked at camerasize.com and found this:
Sony A7R III [657 g] weights 14% (83 grams) more than Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II [574 g] (*inc. batteries and memory card).
and this:
http://camerasize.com/compact/#724.395,692.614,ha,t
Well, at the end of the day the CAMERA size is not really determined by the sensor size.
The sensor is always tiny compared to the rest of a camera.
It's more about processing power, cooling (were Sony tends to have issues), viewfinder, battery capacity (or the mirror box).
Panasonic G9 & Leica 200mm f/2.8 announced - Guest - 11-10-2017
Seems like the x-e3 shrunk in size compared to the x-e2. Anyway I agree that these lenses seem kind of large. maybe it takes a lot of glass to make a well corrected lens but i though the 200mm was one of the easier designs (esp compare to 14mm).
Panasonic G9 & Leica 200mm f/2.8 announced - borisbg - 11-10-2017
Klaus, I agree with you.
However, I wanted to point out that high performance came at the expense of size and price, and not only in cameras, but also lenses.
Panasonic G9 & Leica 200mm f/2.8 announced - Guest - 11-13-2017
Quote:Don't say that too loud ... you may be wrong there. At least regarding the Canon.Couldn't agree more.
Canon is so far behind these days on almost every aspects...