08-03-2020, 08:06 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-03-2020, 08:29 AM by Arthur Macmillan.)
"Luckily, one can do other things with lenses than make mostly boring BIF images..."
I agree! That's why I am a fan of Dave's bird in flight photos. They are pure art!
But I guess what you meant was that even if the RF 600/11 and RF 800/11 art not state of the art on an EOS R5, they could well be excellent on the EOS R6 since it has a DLA of f/10.6 which suggests that f/11 can be expected not to have any real world DLA issues. But...how the EVF may perform could be an issue in either for either camera. It's the sort of thing where I am not sure anything less than trying one's self will clarify it.
For me I would be more interested in the R6 because if one were "stuck" with performance resembling the EOS 1DX Mk. iii, for 30-40% of the price one would not be too disappointed. Unfortunately, I guess there is a reason for the price difference.
What I would like to try would be the R6 and the 800/11 + 1.4x tele. The logic being, I can not come close to anything with this focal range that will work on a DSLR. Would it be usable on BIF photos? Well, maybe. Migrating birds that fly very high are of great interest, because many species can only be seen when they are migrating. But other than that there are lots of wildlife possibilities. Super tele is fun. Pushing the limits is fun!
The EVF, IS, and Focal length interaction issues have been stated pretty well by various factions. The key, as was mentioned, is at this price range, you almost have to try it out if you can! Only on the R6, I would think. I'd want to!
As for the .14X maximum magnification...it is, after all, one of the trade-offs that go with a telephoto prime that is optimized for long distances.
I don't really like that I have to go the telephoto zoom route, but size, price, better MFD and MM, and the ability to find the target at wide zoom and then zoom in, at least make it a less bitter pill to swallow. I have a fantasy lens I would like to own, but it isn't likely any time soon. And I am afraid of the flames I would get for even wanting it. It's not exactly a lens everyone is talking about.
Still, some areas would be perfect for a long prime. Wetlands, and sloughs and such where you can't get anywhere near your birds. If I had an RF mount camera already, I would not consider .14x a reason to stay away from the lens. Rather, I would take it as proof it was as close focusing as possible without throwing performance out the window!
I agree! That's why I am a fan of Dave's bird in flight photos. They are pure art!
But I guess what you meant was that even if the RF 600/11 and RF 800/11 art not state of the art on an EOS R5, they could well be excellent on the EOS R6 since it has a DLA of f/10.6 which suggests that f/11 can be expected not to have any real world DLA issues. But...how the EVF may perform could be an issue in either for either camera. It's the sort of thing where I am not sure anything less than trying one's self will clarify it.
For me I would be more interested in the R6 because if one were "stuck" with performance resembling the EOS 1DX Mk. iii, for 30-40% of the price one would not be too disappointed. Unfortunately, I guess there is a reason for the price difference.
What I would like to try would be the R6 and the 800/11 + 1.4x tele. The logic being, I can not come close to anything with this focal range that will work on a DSLR. Would it be usable on BIF photos? Well, maybe. Migrating birds that fly very high are of great interest, because many species can only be seen when they are migrating. But other than that there are lots of wildlife possibilities. Super tele is fun. Pushing the limits is fun!
The EVF, IS, and Focal length interaction issues have been stated pretty well by various factions. The key, as was mentioned, is at this price range, you almost have to try it out if you can! Only on the R6, I would think. I'd want to!
As for the .14X maximum magnification...it is, after all, one of the trade-offs that go with a telephoto prime that is optimized for long distances.
I don't really like that I have to go the telephoto zoom route, but size, price, better MFD and MM, and the ability to find the target at wide zoom and then zoom in, at least make it a less bitter pill to swallow. I have a fantasy lens I would like to own, but it isn't likely any time soon. And I am afraid of the flames I would get for even wanting it. It's not exactly a lens everyone is talking about.
Still, some areas would be perfect for a long prime. Wetlands, and sloughs and such where you can't get anywhere near your birds. If I had an RF mount camera already, I would not consider .14x a reason to stay away from the lens. Rather, I would take it as proof it was as close focusing as possible without throwing performance out the window!