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Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming
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Quote:Uhmm, no. Here you are confusing your fantasy with my facts again. Yes, fantasy is written with an F.  Wink

Evidence of what? I already gave you the calculations (= evidence B) ) to show you that indeed, 12mm f1.4 on MFT is equivalent (as equivalent as things can be with different aspect ratios) to 24mm f2.8 on full frame 135 format. What more "evidence" do you require?

And you have the odd idea that it is in any sense valuable to use the same ISO number setting on different cameras. No idea why you think that is in any way meaningful.

Nor is it meaningful to use the same f-value, as the f-value stands for apparent aperture size. Which means that you oddly enough place importance of setting one camera a f/1.4 where f = 12mm and the other camera at f/1.4 where f = 24mm. So you find it meaningful/logical to set one camera at 12 / 1.4 = 8.5mm aperture, and the other at 24 / 1.4 = 17mm aperture.


Yeah, that makes so much sense. Well actually, it does not, and never has.


So, not only does the f1.4 not mean the same on the different lenses, and does for instance "ISO 100" not have an actual significant meaning or importance, you end up with very different images due to the different DOF. How interesting to keep on repeating that useless "comparison".

 

Why not compare 50mm f1.4 on MFT to 50mm f1.4 on FF? You will find that with the same ISO number setting you will get the same exposure time when using a similar exposure metering method. 

 

Or how about putting a 500mm f8 lens on a Nikon D700 at ISO 3200 and a 20mm f1.4 lens on a Nikon D5 at ISO 100. Again, similar exposure times. Now you not only have different DOF, but also different FOV!

 

It is not that hard to come up with pretty senseless comparisons  :lol:
 

BC is correct.

 

Here is a good article from LumoLabs explaining camera equivalence.

I recommend anyone interested in the subject to read it:

http://www.falklumo.com/lumolabs/article...alence.pdf
--Florent

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Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Klaus - 06-14-2016, 11:40 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Rover - 06-14-2016, 11:46 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Guest - 06-14-2016, 11:57 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Klaus - 06-14-2016, 12:46 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-14-2016, 01:24 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Klaus - 06-14-2016, 01:54 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-14-2016, 01:58 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by JJ_SO - 06-14-2016, 01:59 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-14-2016, 03:42 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by JJ_SO - 06-14-2016, 06:05 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-14-2016, 08:06 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by wim - 06-14-2016, 10:06 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by JJ_SO - 06-14-2016, 11:21 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-15-2016, 05:40 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-15-2016, 06:39 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-15-2016, 07:12 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by JJ_SO - 06-15-2016, 07:22 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-15-2016, 07:28 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by JJ_SO - 06-15-2016, 07:32 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-15-2016, 08:11 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by chrismiller - 06-15-2016, 08:44 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Rover - 06-15-2016, 09:56 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-15-2016, 10:23 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Rover - 06-15-2016, 10:48 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by chrismiller - 06-15-2016, 11:02 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-15-2016, 11:05 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by JJ_SO - 06-15-2016, 11:09 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-15-2016, 11:17 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by chrismiller - 06-15-2016, 11:40 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by JJ_SO - 06-15-2016, 12:33 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Rover - 06-15-2016, 01:18 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-15-2016, 02:18 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Rover - 06-15-2016, 02:33 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by thxbb12 - 06-15-2016, 05:33 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by JJ_SO - 06-15-2016, 06:12 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-15-2016, 06:45 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Rover - 06-15-2016, 07:51 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by wim - 06-15-2016, 09:03 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by wim - 06-15-2016, 10:02 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Klaus - 06-15-2016, 10:28 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by wim - 06-15-2016, 10:29 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by wim - 06-15-2016, 10:35 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by wim - 06-15-2016, 10:43 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by wim - 06-15-2016, 10:51 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by thxbb12 - 06-15-2016, 11:15 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by chrismiller - 06-15-2016, 11:28 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Klaus - 06-15-2016, 11:31 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-16-2016, 07:29 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-16-2016, 07:38 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Klaus - 06-16-2016, 11:34 AM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by wim - 06-16-2016, 08:30 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by wim - 06-16-2016, 08:52 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Klaus - 06-16-2016, 09:46 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Brightcolours - 06-16-2016, 10:26 PM
Pana/Leica 12mm f/1.4 coming - by Klaus - 06-16-2016, 11:01 PM

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