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Nikon Neglect?
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(11-17-2019, 09:31 AM)JJ_SO Wrote: Dave, Sigma is also developing and manufacturing for L-mount. So there are 3 manufacturers offering lenses for the same mount, while Nikon remains exclusively. There are also 3 different camera manufacturers for the same mount. I agree, I don't think I will ever see a Sigma lens in front of a Leica SL or SL2 (in the wild) as these are very interesting for M-mount lenses as well. But regarding what happened to Nikon 1, to Samsung and to Pentax mirrorless systems, I see more potential in L- than in Z-mount. Especially since Nikon bragged about all the advantages of their bigger mount and so far we haven't seen the lenses following.

In my opinion L-mount has a broader base of manufacturers and users - and what better users a manufacturer can ask for than the ones than those willing to pay super-premium prices. Yes, some big pocket Nikonians will also buy the 58 mm Noct to put it in a glass shelf - but not enough to cover Nikon's financial loss. Occasionally I came to a different opinion about Z-mount and am far less positive about it's future than only one year ago. 

Sure, the grass is always greener in the other valley and before I choose a different systems I first try it out. Not far from where I live a dealer offers a CHF 100,-/48 hrs Leica rental, they also offer the Panasonics for rent. I like the handling of the Z 6 / 7 but I also see their downsides, there was only one major FW update, the pace on lenses remains slow, the f/1.8 are comparatively expensive (to what we were used), there's no professional body, the battery pack is a very bad joke and currently Sony offers better specs and lenses for each group of photogs.

At least I became confident the Z is a good camera to use it in the rain  Shy

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  Firstly regarding the Nikon 1, personally, I don't regard it as failed camera, rather outmoded, but Nikon has bigger and more important fish to fry than compact style cameras in these times, sensibly they put their resources to better use.

  Sounds so good a lens mount alliance doesn't it? .... but it depends on who's in the alliance.....really there are Sigma and Panasonic/ Leica... and all three are producing lenses  ..... if Sigma dominates say Panasonics lens sales??

Leica have created the camera using Panasonic's licensed technology and relies almost completely on it, which means Leica is counting on Panasonic's success selling it's own version.
   What will happen if the SR1 just flops, (it's sales are derisory) will Panasonic continue further extremely expensive development just for the sake of Leica?..... ....losing the L mount wouldn't  harm Sigma noticeably!
   
   No all in all JoJu, I'm not seeing this magical L mount having much success on these niche bodies..... and Sigma's contribution only serves to possibly ravage the sales of their own allies. (as they own camera sales will be minimal)

   Nikon relies on Nikon  (this also applies to Canon)  it makes it's own designed cameras and makes it's own designed lenses ......... 
   Nikon's trump card is their new glass effectively renders obsolete the F mount glass it replaces ..... there's that much of a step up in IQ.
  Do you stay with the DSLR and satisfy yourself with the cheaper existing F mount knowing you have chosen second best?. ........Or do you go Z mount ?... Nikon can count on new sales at least!      IMHO there will be little updated F mount glass, but there's still plenty on the shelves for those who are not looking for change.
 (I know the 58mm F0.95 is an exotic optic but Nikon has already refused further pre-orders)..... so it's not a loser.
    
At this point in time I see very few clients for this L mount ..... mainly because there are very few clients for the bodies ..... but what clients there are, are now divided by three !!

P.S. As Klaus posted Panasonic took the wrong road with their AF mixed system of "CDAF AI and blur" technology ....
Dave's clichés
  


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Nikon Neglect? - by Nikkor Noct - 11-15-2019, 02:46 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-15-2019, 06:08 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by davidmanze - 11-15-2019, 07:51 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by mst - 11-15-2019, 08:02 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-15-2019, 08:46 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Klaus - 11-15-2019, 09:26 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-15-2019, 10:15 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by thxbb12 - 11-15-2019, 11:35 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-15-2019, 11:59 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-15-2019, 11:58 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by davidmanze - 11-15-2019, 01:30 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by thxbb12 - 11-15-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-15-2019, 12:30 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by thxbb12 - 11-15-2019, 01:40 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-15-2019, 02:03 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by thxbb12 - 11-15-2019, 02:16 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-15-2019, 03:40 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-15-2019, 03:44 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by mst - 11-15-2019, 05:50 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-16-2019, 10:07 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by toni-a - 11-15-2019, 06:52 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Klaus - 11-15-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by mst - 11-15-2019, 10:17 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by davidmanze - 11-16-2019, 07:26 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by davidmanze - 11-17-2019, 06:49 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Klaus - 11-17-2019, 09:31 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-17-2019, 09:31 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by davidmanze - 11-18-2019, 09:01 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-18-2019, 10:35 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by davidmanze - 11-18-2019, 11:23 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-18-2019, 12:51 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by mst - 11-18-2019, 02:10 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-17-2019, 10:46 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-17-2019, 11:12 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-17-2019, 11:34 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-17-2019, 11:37 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-17-2019, 11:54 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-17-2019, 01:23 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-18-2019, 09:18 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by davidmanze - 11-18-2019, 09:42 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-18-2019, 11:59 AM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by davidmanze - 11-18-2019, 01:17 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-18-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by davidmanze - 11-18-2019, 06:14 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-18-2019, 01:43 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-18-2019, 02:07 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-18-2019, 05:53 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-18-2019, 08:48 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by davidmanze - 11-18-2019, 09:12 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by JJ_SO - 11-18-2019, 09:31 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by davidmanze - 11-18-2019, 10:00 PM
RE: Nikon Neglect? - by Brightcolours - 11-19-2019, 08:29 AM

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