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Sony A77 product images .. ? - Klaus - 07-15-2011
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Sony A77 product images .. ? - Guest - 07-20-2011
What??? No flash in a semi-pro model?
They are killing one of the best selling points the Minolta system ever had <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Sony A77 product images .. ? - mst - 07-20-2011
Do they? How many semi-Pro's do really care about built-in flash?
-- Markus
Sony A77 product images .. ? - Klaus - 07-20-2011
[quote name='olegk' timestamp='1311180822' post='10162']
What??? No flash in a semi-pro model?
They are killing one of the best selling points the Minolta system ever had <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Well, I don't need a build-in flash unit. Even the primitive F20AM is far better than any build-in one at just 90g.
Sony A77 product images .. ? - popo - 07-20-2011
[quote name='mst' timestamp='1311182753' post='10163']
Do they? How many semi-Pro's do really care about built-in flash?
-- Markus
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I think that isn't the right question exactly. It probably should be "how many people likely to buy an A77 class camera care about built-in flash?"
Personally I rarely carry an external flash unless I know I will need it. Pop-up flash can come in handy at times.
Also, I think the complaint wasn't necessarily about using the body flash as a flash, but maybe as a flash controller. It can be nice not to have another gadget around to control external flashes.
Sony A77 product images .. ? - Guest - 07-20-2011
Yes, I mean built-in flash as a controller. The usual Minolta flash control system is too convenient to loose.
You just switch all the units on, register them properly, and everything works together.
Chineese RF triggers or IR-based systems take the hell out of you before you get to this point.
So, omitting the built-in flash is a very bad idea.
Sony A77 product images .. ? - mst - 07-20-2011
Sorry, I wasn't aware that the Sony flash can act as controller. That's of course a different story.
-- Markus
Sony A77 product images .. ? - Brightcolours - 07-20-2011
That sounds like a studio setup. Only if Sony actually thought about (rethought) things, the A77 will be usable in such a studio setup... the A55v with its forced live view which simulates the exposure settings (time and aperture) gives studio photographers headaches!
At least, that is what I have been reading on forums.
Sony A77 product images .. ? - boren - 07-20-2011
[quote name='mst' timestamp='1311186470' post='10167']
Sorry, I wasn't aware that the Sony flash can act as controller. That's of course a different story.[/quote]
Almost all A-mount SLRs released in the last 20 years support wirelss TTL flash control using the built in flash. Minolta did it years before anyone else.
Edit: According to other [url="http://cdn.mos.photoradar.com/files/imagecache/con_full_user_photo/articles/news/june2011/Sony%20A77%20Sony%20A65%20release.jpg"]leaked pictures[/url] (with view of the pentaprism), the A77 does have a built-in flash.
Sony A77 product images .. ? - Brightcolours - 07-20-2011
[quote name='boren' timestamp='1311194058' post='10170']
Almost all A-mount SLRs released in the last 20 years support wirelss TTL flash control using the built in flash. Minolta did it years before anyone else.
Edit: According to other leaked pictures (with view of the pentaprism), the A77 does have a built-in flash.
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According to the leaked pictures, the A77 has no pentaprism. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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