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M42 mount lens on a Nikon body... - PuxaVida - 11-22-2010

After the thrill is gone for a period of time, again I feel the urge for affordable (and told-to-be brilliant) M42 MF lenses like Jupiter and Tair. The register difference of Nikon is more than the original M42, so no infinity focus unless an adapter with glass is bought (which I'd rather avoid to be able to see the real performance of the original glass). The question is, where does the problem with "infinity focus" begins? I mean from which distance to infinity?



Kind regards,



Serkan


M42 mount lens on a Nikon body... - Rainer - 11-22-2010

There is no general value for this, since this depents on the focal length ...

a 50mm lens moves its optical group only a few mm forward in order to

focus from infinity to MFD (usually around 50cm).



A better approach would be to try lenses (like the Tamron Adaptall-2) that

already come with a register distance that is large enough .



You could (of course) also get a Canon EOS body for this.


M42 mount lens on a Nikon body... - popo - 11-22-2010

Roughly speaking, shorter focal length lenses will have more of a "problem" than longer ones. You can try this calculator for an indication. Zero the close up lens dioptre value and plug in just the focal length and extension. The rest don't matter if you're not looking at minimum focus. As example, if you have 2mm extension on 50mm lens, you're down to 1.3m! But 2mm extension at 300mm works out to 45m.



Otherwise, learn to love macro <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />


M42 mount lens on a Nikon body... - PuxaVida - 11-22-2010

Thanks... So, for a Tair 11a (135mm), it is then ~17,7 meters... I entered 1,04mm in the field "extension" as it is the register difference in mm between F-mount and M42. Is that correct?


M42 mount lens on a Nikon body... - PuxaVida - 11-22-2010

[quote name='Rainer' timestamp='1290440520' post='4330']

A better approach would be to try lenses (like the Tamron Adaptall-2) that

already come with a register distance that is large enough .

[/quote]



Yes, but I have doubts about the Tamron glass... These Jupiter and Tair lenses are told to be very sharp and cost almost nothing...



Quote:You could (of course) also get a Canon EOS body for this.



Or better get a Pentax body as it is the perfect fit...<img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />



Kind regards,



Serkan


M42 mount lens on a Nikon body... - Rainer - 11-22-2010

[quote name='PuxaVida' timestamp='1290453449' post='4335']

I entered 1,04mm in the field "extension" as it is the register difference in mm between F-mount and M42. Is that correct?

[/quote]



Well, the register distance for Nikon-F is 46.5 ... M42 is 45.5 ... so in principle the difference is 1mm ... but

the adapter itself will also have a certain thickness ... I must admit I have not seen a M42 to Nikon so far.

So, if this adapter has indeed its own thickness and does not completely sink into the Nikon mount, you

will have to add adapter thickness too ... and that will likely destroy all your plans.



Regarding you concerns with the Adaptall-2 glass ... if you stay with the "SP" lenses, you are likely

on the save side.


M42 mount lens on a Nikon body... - Guest - 11-23-2010

[quote name='PuxaVida' timestamp='1290437762' post='4329']

After the thrill is gone for a period of time, again I feel the urge for affordable (and told-to-be brilliant) M42 MF lenses like Jupiter and Tair. The register difference of Nikon is more than the original M42, so no infinity focus unless an adapter with glass is bought (which I'd rather avoid to be able to see the real performance of the original glass). The question is, where does the problem with "infinity focus" begins? I mean from which distance to infinity?



Kind regards,



Serkan

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You may be able to modifiy the lenses you are after. I have a Carl Zeiss Jenna DDR 135mm 3.5 that I just had to modify so that it would turn further on focusing bringing the whole lens group closer to the sensor. Works perfectly on my Nikon D90. I guess this is more likely to be possible on longer lenses though I reckon it might work on the Jupiter as well.



It was really easy to do on the CZ Jenna but I have no idea how easy it is with other lenses.


M42 mount lens on a Nikon body... - PuxaVida - 11-23-2010

What kind of modification have you done exactly to adjust the focusing ring?


M42 mount lens on a Nikon body... - Guest - 11-24-2010

[quote name='PuxaVida' timestamp='1290498475' post='4348']

What kind of modification have you done exactly to adjust the focusing ring?

[/quote]



I can't really remeber to be honest, I had taken it apart to clean and re-grease and I think part of the dissembly involved ensuring you kept the infinity focus point in the right place. I then realised I could just change it so that it worked on my nikon to infinity, can't remeber how exactly.



I was following this guide for dissembly



http://www.andrew.brown.dsl.pipex.com/articles/czj135svc/



/edit having a quite read it sounds like it had something to do with the infinty adjustment screw...


M42 mount lens on a Nikon body... - PuxaVida - 11-25-2010

Thanks for the link, I'll check it...



Serkan