08-08-2011, 07:57 PM
[quote name='dave9t5' timestamp='1312829907' post='10518']
Markus,
Your Sample Galleries are really starting to undermine the whole testing process.
No matter how bad the lenses are in the objective testing you seem to get great sample images from them. Therefore there must be a problem in either the testing procedure or your sample images. Since the objective testing cannot be wrong, we must conclude that the problem is with your photos.
Therefore there must be something wrong with your technique to be able to produce good sample photos every time!
<img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />
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[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1312830939' post='10521']
We'll always loose anyway here. There're two options:
1. show the images that reflect the rating
2. show the images that reflect how you use the lens in the field (in this case - stopped down images)
I onced dared to do (1) with an Canon L lens and the review was immediately criticized that nobody would use the lens like this. Thereafter we followed (2) which is not perfect in the way you mentioned.
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Sorry, I was just making a poor joke. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Actually, I was trying to compliment Markus' photographic skills. When I see good photos like his samples, even from weak lenses, it's a reminder that it's about the photographer and not the equipment and that I spend too much time looking at the data and not enough time shooting!
(And plenty of wide-open sample images with this particular lens.)
But if it's about the photographer, not the equipment, then what I am doing hanging out here? Therefore, I need to convince myself that it's about the equipment and not the photographer. So, Markus' photos are clearly too decent and therefore must have some problem. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Markus,
Your Sample Galleries are really starting to undermine the whole testing process.
No matter how bad the lenses are in the objective testing you seem to get great sample images from them. Therefore there must be a problem in either the testing procedure or your sample images. Since the objective testing cannot be wrong, we must conclude that the problem is with your photos.
Therefore there must be something wrong with your technique to be able to produce good sample photos every time!
<img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />
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[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1312830939' post='10521']
We'll always loose anyway here. There're two options:
1. show the images that reflect the rating
2. show the images that reflect how you use the lens in the field (in this case - stopped down images)
I onced dared to do (1) with an Canon L lens and the review was immediately criticized that nobody would use the lens like this. Thereafter we followed (2) which is not perfect in the way you mentioned.
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Sorry, I was just making a poor joke. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> Actually, I was trying to compliment Markus' photographic skills. When I see good photos like his samples, even from weak lenses, it's a reminder that it's about the photographer and not the equipment and that I spend too much time looking at the data and not enough time shooting!
(And plenty of wide-open sample images with this particular lens.)
But if it's about the photographer, not the equipment, then what I am doing hanging out here? Therefore, I need to convince myself that it's about the equipment and not the photographer. So, Markus' photos are clearly too decent and therefore must have some problem. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />