07-30-2010, 01:31 PM
[quote name='obsoquasi' timestamp='1280492359' post='1418']
About my "feeling" what concerns the FF UWA line of Canon. If compared to Nikon, Canon really is lagging behind a little and seeing that they are otherwise selling their 5D MkII really well, I am contemplating that they are trying to catch up soon-ish. On canonrumors one hears repeatedly about a 24-70mm F/2.8L IS version for example. [/quote]
IMO, that is largely internet hype. The only thing Canon hasn't got an answer to yet is the 14-24 F/2.8, which is an excellent lens. Besides that, Canon does have a 14 F/2.8L which Nikon can't match, plus a TS-E 17L, 24L II, TS-E 24L II, 35L, 50L. So all depends on how you look at this.
Zoom wise, the 24-70 is also due for replacement, and there are some being tested in the field right now. If the 70-200 F/2.8L IS II is a harbinger of things to come, it'll likely be very good.
Furthermore, Nikon only recently started to try and get a corner in the market where Canon is very strong: slower (and lighter) professional zoom lenses. So where one appears to be lagging behind, the other has an advantage, and vice versa.
No big deal to me <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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They actually have, and they actually do. IOW, their strategy, whatever ti is, does seem to work <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.
Well, I myself prefer primes, but that certainly is something that always caught my eye with photographs taken with the F/2.8 versions of this lens. It's not as if you can't take photographs with good bokeh with the slower siblings, but the F/2.8s are just a tad better in this regard, even at F/4. And for really good bokeh, well, you do need to go the prime route <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.
Kind regards, Wim
About my "feeling" what concerns the FF UWA line of Canon. If compared to Nikon, Canon really is lagging behind a little and seeing that they are otherwise selling their 5D MkII really well, I am contemplating that they are trying to catch up soon-ish. On canonrumors one hears repeatedly about a 24-70mm F/2.8L IS version for example. [/quote]
IMO, that is largely internet hype. The only thing Canon hasn't got an answer to yet is the 14-24 F/2.8, which is an excellent lens. Besides that, Canon does have a 14 F/2.8L which Nikon can't match, plus a TS-E 17L, 24L II, TS-E 24L II, 35L, 50L. So all depends on how you look at this.
Zoom wise, the 24-70 is also due for replacement, and there are some being tested in the field right now. If the 70-200 F/2.8L IS II is a harbinger of things to come, it'll likely be very good.
Furthermore, Nikon only recently started to try and get a corner in the market where Canon is very strong: slower (and lighter) professional zoom lenses. So where one appears to be lagging behind, the other has an advantage, and vice versa.
No big deal to me <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />.Quote:However this is all speculation, I am just trying to understand Canon's strategy to lock-in their customers, they certainly can if they can provide an exellent lens selection all through the zoom range, be it FF or APS-C. And if they can do that with the lower price tag (compared to Nikon) then they are sure to make a lot of money.
They actually have, and they actually do. IOW, their strategy, whatever ti is, does seem to work <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />.Quote:Your notion of the bokeh of the 70-200mm F/2.8 was interesting, I haven't really thought of it that way.
Well, I myself prefer primes, but that certainly is something that always caught my eye with photographs taken with the F/2.8 versions of this lens. It's not as if you can't take photographs with good bokeh with the slower siblings, but the F/2.8s are just a tad better in this regard, even at F/4. And for really good bokeh, well, you do need to go the prime route <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />.Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....