03-08-2011, 12:56 AM
[quote name='Pinhole' timestamp='1299539833' post='6588']
A funny little discovery I made about the definition of "Bokeh" - I noticed it while reading the Zeiss Makro Planar 100/2 review by Markus. If I'm lucky, I might be getting this lens tomorrow! <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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From the review:
"The bokeh (the quality of the out-of-focus blur) is a primary aspect for an ultra large aperture lens and the 100mm f/2 does not disappoint us here - mostly. The blur is very smooth and buttery."
As we see above, the words "bokeh" and "blur" are used interchangeably. In this case the quality of the blur/bokeh is "smooth and buttery" (it also means that "bokeh" alone does not describe the quality, it needs additional adjectives).
Anyway, smooth and buttery sounds good to me. If anyone is still reading this, Monochrom in Berlin (http://www.monochrom.de) are doing a special offer on Zeiss ZE/ZF lenses until tomorrow night - the 100/2 is 250 euros cheaper than normal.
Regards,
Pinhole
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Come on Pinhole. They are not used interchangeably. It says that Bokeh is the quality of the blur. Stop fighting the same thing over and over.
Something is blurry when it is not sharp. Something can be more blurry, or less blurry. One could talk about "amount" of blur even.
So far "blur".
Now bokeh: The CHARACTER of blurry parts of a photograph.
A car is a car. It can be bigger, or it can be smaller. Colour is a term to describe the shade/hue/tonality of the car. A colour can be described as warm, ugly, or other terms. Yet, car and colour are not interchangeable. One is the actual subject, the other is a descriptive term to describe an aspect of that subject.
Now, about that Zeiss 100mm f2, a very nice lens. If it is a focal length you enjoy, it should serve you well. Do note that is macro lens, it only gives you 1:2 macro. Very nice as portrait lens too.
A funny little discovery I made about the definition of "Bokeh" - I noticed it while reading the Zeiss Makro Planar 100/2 review by Markus. If I'm lucky, I might be getting this lens tomorrow! <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> From the review:
"The bokeh (the quality of the out-of-focus blur) is a primary aspect for an ultra large aperture lens and the 100mm f/2 does not disappoint us here - mostly. The blur is very smooth and buttery."
As we see above, the words "bokeh" and "blur" are used interchangeably. In this case the quality of the blur/bokeh is "smooth and buttery" (it also means that "bokeh" alone does not describe the quality, it needs additional adjectives).
Anyway, smooth and buttery sounds good to me. If anyone is still reading this, Monochrom in Berlin (http://www.monochrom.de) are doing a special offer on Zeiss ZE/ZF lenses until tomorrow night - the 100/2 is 250 euros cheaper than normal.
Regards,
Pinhole
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Come on Pinhole. They are not used interchangeably. It says that Bokeh is the quality of the blur. Stop fighting the same thing over and over.
Something is blurry when it is not sharp. Something can be more blurry, or less blurry. One could talk about "amount" of blur even.
So far "blur".
Now bokeh: The CHARACTER of blurry parts of a photograph.
A car is a car. It can be bigger, or it can be smaller. Colour is a term to describe the shade/hue/tonality of the car. A colour can be described as warm, ugly, or other terms. Yet, car and colour are not interchangeable. One is the actual subject, the other is a descriptive term to describe an aspect of that subject.
Now, about that Zeiss 100mm f2, a very nice lens. If it is a focal length you enjoy, it should serve you well. Do note that is macro lens, it only gives you 1:2 macro. Very nice as portrait lens too.