06-15-2010, 12:14 AM
[quote name='wim' date='15 June 2010 - 07:46 AM' timestamp='1276552014' post='521']
Based on my own tests and comparisons, I totally agree <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />. I owned a 14-24, with G-EOS adapter, and sold the lens after acquiring the TS-E 17. The 14-24 is no competition for the TS-E. Neither is the ZE with its huge field relevant vignetting, and I am not even talking about the 18 distagon <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Nah, even cropping a 12 mm image to 14 mm, or even 18 mm, is not going to give you the same quality, not even close <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />. I got a 12-24, best of three, and when I saw the results in real life I ran back to the shop, and exchanged it for above mentioned Nikkor 14-24, even though it cost twice as much (Of course, than then got superceded by the TS-E 17 <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />).
However, the 14L II is actually not bad at all for a fast 14 mm. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
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Agree... the TS-E 17 is a gorgeous lens. It's a must have for UWA fans, T/S aside. The T/S is a good bonus too.
[quote name='wim' date='15 June 2010 - 07:46 AM' timestamp='1276552014' post='521']
However, F/2.8 in an extreme UWA is great for low light shooting <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.
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Sometimes I get too lazy to do a bulb exposure and try to get everything in 30s <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> But I think the main benefit of such fast apertures (combined with high ISOs) is allowing you to do exposure previews quicker, for very low light static scenes.
Based on my own tests and comparisons, I totally agree <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />. I owned a 14-24, with G-EOS adapter, and sold the lens after acquiring the TS-E 17. The 14-24 is no competition for the TS-E. Neither is the ZE with its huge field relevant vignetting, and I am not even talking about the 18 distagon <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />. Nah, even cropping a 12 mm image to 14 mm, or even 18 mm, is not going to give you the same quality, not even close <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />. I got a 12-24, best of three, and when I saw the results in real life I ran back to the shop, and exchanged it for above mentioned Nikkor 14-24, even though it cost twice as much (Of course, than then got superceded by the TS-E 17 <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />). However, the 14L II is actually not bad at all for a fast 14 mm. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Agree... the TS-E 17 is a gorgeous lens. It's a must have for UWA fans, T/S aside. The T/S is a good bonus too.
[quote name='wim' date='15 June 2010 - 07:46 AM' timestamp='1276552014' post='521']
However, F/2.8 in an extreme UWA is great for low light shooting <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Sometimes I get too lazy to do a bulb exposure and try to get everything in 30s <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> But I think the main benefit of such fast apertures (combined with high ISOs) is allowing you to do exposure previews quicker, for very low light static scenes.