09-30-2019, 01:29 PM
(09-30-2019, 12:35 PM)Klaus Wrote: Where did I state that Sony's walkman could play MP3? I suggest reading my comment.
About Xerox vs Apple
The Lisa was released in 1983 (Mac: 1984).
The Xerox Alto was released in 1974.
Ref.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Alto
If you don't like the Alto - take the Star ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Star ) released in 1981 - featuring ... windows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn4vC80Pv6Q
IBM Star introduced "touch" on a phone for the first time. And Smartphones did exist prior of the iphone - take the Nokia Communicator for instance.
My first smartphone was a HP/Compaq iPAQ (2004 or 2005).
Please get your dates, right.
Get your own dates. Right?
Like I already wrote...A visit to Xerox PARC inspired Steve Jobs and some Apple employees. The visit happened in 1979. Work started on the Apple Lisa, which featured windows, scroll bars, menu bars and more that were not present on the Alto.
There is a lot of information available from the developers on how the Lisa and the Mac were developed, and who came up with which UI part. It is not a "copy" from the Alto. That you think that the Lisa was developed within a year after Xerox finally put out a commercial system, the Star, is your ok.... Can't change that.
I remember that Digital Research limited the number of windows on GEM for PC (to 1?) to not get into trouble with Apple's patents.
That Compaq iPaq was a PDA or "pocket PC" with cell phone functionality. The whole PDA thing started with the Apple Newton, the term PDA was coined by John Sculley, the Apple CEO. Palm Inc. popularized PDAs by making less capable than Newton but far cheaper and smaller PDAs (Palm Pilot, 1996), and that iPaq you mention is just another PDA with cellphone functionality.
Blackberry more or less obliterated PDA phones which ran versions of Windows Mobile, Palm OS and the likes (can't remember all the systems Nokia used to use), and then Apple made the iPhone which changed the game totally.
That some (you?) want to argue that the iPhone is a smartphone and that since it is not the 1st smartphone Apple copied others... is their problem.