[davidmanze]

You are revising the history of the Df discussion a bit here, Dave....

You wrote: "...  it also had the renowned sensor from the D4, a good FF sensor to this day ...... both from the POV of noise, DR and colour rendition", after I wrote that the Df had "A contrived controls mix concept, under the guise of "retro" and "style"."

To which I replied: "The Df had the sensor of the D4, which had low dynamic range compared to the Sony sensors (worse than the D600/610/D750 for instance), the thing Canon sensors got bashed for at the time.... With similar high ISO noise as a D610 or 6D. Not sure what was renowned of that sensor, maybe its low resolution (4mp lower than my 6D)? "
The last part about the low resolution was of course a bit tongue in cheek.

I have not said that the D4 had a lousy sensor, nor am I of the opinion that the 6D has a lousy sensor. But neither should be described as "renowned" when they were not...

The noise at higher ISO is like other sensors (albeit with a lower resolution sensor, you should look at image level and not pixel peeping), the DR (something not high on my properties list as you are well aware) is lower than the Sony-sensored Nikon DSLRs of the same era, and colour rendition.... You can write whole dissertations about that....

My original point was that the Df was not a great design from Nikon, and lets leave it at that...

 ......... You see, I even let you have the last few words BC ..... I don't want you to feel like I'm not listening  .........I'm all ears ............