[joachim]

Hi,



I am wondering what has happened to serious APS-C DSLRs. They seem to be not maintained/renewed any more. For Nikon, the D300 is still on the old 12MP sensor and the D7000 (if that even qualifies) also didn't get an upgrade when e.g. the entry level D3000 model got moved to the D3200. Similar story for Canon. The 7D and 60D models are also a bit ageing. Both companies are showing a fair amount of activity for FF cameras with increases in Price and size that goes with APS-C vs FF.



On the other hand there is a good level of activity in mirror-less cameras in the recent years (Olympus, Sony, Fuji) trying to move into the semi-serious market. So I am wondering whether the APS-C DSLR is getting squeezed into "extinction" here.



Not that I want such a camera - I handled a Nikon D7000 a couple of times and thought it was to large for me to buy. I am interested from a market trend perspective and would like to read your thoughts and comments. I particular picked the photozone forum for this, since I know people here best.



Thanks for reading

Joachim

[Bare]

I think that FF is future of DSLR, APS-C is for mirrorless.

[Klaus]

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I think that FF is future of DSLR, APS-C is for mirrorless.

[/quote]



Yes, likely.

[soLong]

....needing a definition for serious



- but seriously, whilst walking the streets looking around as you do, most of the tourists i see seem to be carrying small dslrs around, so i'm not so sure about this genre (and i'm unbiased here)..... but i do expect there to be a long term permanent tourist type person arriving tomorrow from Germany who might be carrying a tiny mirror-less camera for serious shots - i should check it out

[Klaus]

[quote name='soLong' timestamp='1351669247' post='20757']

....needing a definition for serious



- but seriously, whilst walking the streets looking around as you do, most of the tourists i see seem to be carrying small dslrs around, so i'm not so sure about this genre (and i'm unbiased here)..... but i do expect there to be a long term permanent tourist type person arriving tomorrow from Germany who might be carrying a tiny mirror-less camera for serious shots - i should check it out

[/quote]



Arrival is on Friday actually.

[soLong]

[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1351669395' post='20758']

Arrival is on Friday actually.

[/quote]

oops, sorry i thought november 1 - i wonder should i withdraw my two gallery pics and post them again more accurate as to the day - nah i'll just post another shot -



and re. my first reply..... maybe i'm not seeing the tourists carrying mirror-less because the cameras are so small <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[Klaus]

[quote name='soLong' timestamp='1351670931' post='20759']

oops, sorry i thought november 1 - i wonder should i withdraw my two gallery pics and post them again more accurate as to the day - nah i'll just post another shot -



and re. my first reply..... maybe i'm not seeing the tourists carrying mirror-less because the cameras are so small <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[/quote]



After a flight this long you may recognize me better as the dead man walking ...

[Rover]

It's not true for every manufacturer: Sony A77 anyone? (technically it's not a SLR but for most intents and purposes it's the same kind of stuff). Or Pentax K-5 Mark II (sp?) I expect to see a renewal of 7D sometime; it has a slightly different target market than any of Canon's FF cameras short of 1DX. Nikon... dunno. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[Guest]

[quote name='joachim' timestamp='1351666252' post='20754']

Hi,



I am wondering what has happened to serious APS-C DSLRs. They seem to be not maintained/renewed any more. For Nikon, the D300 is still on the old 12MP sensor and the D7000 (if that even qualifies) also didn't get an upgrade when e.g. the entry level D3000 model got moved to the D3200. Similar story for Canon. The 7D and 60D models are also a bit ageing. Both companies are showing a fair amount of activity for FF cameras with increases in Price and size that goes with APS-C vs FF.



On the other hand there is a good level of activity in mirror-less cameras in the recent years (Olympus, Sony, Fuji) trying to move into the semi-serious market. So I am wondering whether the APS-C DSLR is getting squeezed into "extinction" here.



Not that I want such a camera - I handled a Nikon D7000 a couple of times and thought it was to large for me to buy. I am interested from a market trend perspective and would like to read your thoughts and comments. I particular picked the photozone forum for this, since I know people here best.



Thanks for reading

Joachim

[/quote]



Well, I think the issue with Canon (7D etc.) is that Canon has not been able to come up with a better APS-C sensor yet, so there is nothing to upgrade the 7D and other APS-C bodies. I don't think Canon will abandon the concept of a 7D, because together with their excellent long lenses, one has an excellent combination for wild-life photography.

[Guest]

Question is how long till mirror-less camera take over the FF market ? That is to say why would it be limited to apsc ?