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Doubt in new equipment - Advice please
#21
[quote name='Sammy' timestamp='1305539130' post='8355']

A new D90 body costs over here (Germany) 585 Euros from a reputable online shop. The corresponding kit lenses (18-55 mm, 18-105 mm) certainly qualify as "decent", the next step up would be the 16-85 mm lens.

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What is the name of this online shop?
#22
[quote name='Brisco' timestamp='1305535565' post='8351']

What about a 50D or D90 for 690€(only a new body)???. What do you think about its performance?

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D90 high ISO and DR is way superior to 50D.
#23
[quote name='Brisco' timestamp='1305537131' post='8354']

My old equipment was an Canon 20D with grip, 17-40L, 70-200L, 50mm 1.8 ... now I dont want to spend this money,but I want a decent lense. I have to say that the money is important in the selection.



In the beginig I was thinking in a cheap lense with decent optics (and bad construction).



The manufacturer is not an issue .. forgot that my old equipment was Canon ... I have no any lense now .. and there is no problem to go to Nikon land.

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Which 70-200L was it?



The 50D has a much better live view implementation, but you probably have no experience with it and a DSLR, so you won't know if live view is something you might need in certain situations or not.



Like I said, both are good camera bodies, and you have not yet stated which kind of lens requirements you have, price wise or specs wise.



The 17-40L is a bit strange on an APS-C camera, size and price wise.

The Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 EX DC OS HSM is an attractive lens, price wise. And it has good optics, image stabilization, and is well built. It offers you f2.8 too, which is a nice bonus, and would probably make a 50mm f1.8 lens not needed.

The Canon EF-S 15-85mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM is a good lens for its type, Nikon has the 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 VR. Both have quite heavy barrel distortion at the wide end, and do not open wider than f5.6 at the portrait end, which makes them a bit less attractive in my view. But that is a personal matter, and depends on how you tend to use your camera.



If you want tele, the Canon 70-200mm f4 L USM is still very affordable and light weight for what it offers, and it has no competition from other manufacturers (the Pentax 60-250mm f4 comes closest, but is more expensive and heavier).

The Canon 55-250mm IS is very affordable, and performs very well, even in the long end, surprising many lens snob. Only thing is that it does not have a smooth a bokeh rendering as the aforementioned 70-200 f4.



The Tamron 70-300 VC offers an interesting 3rd party alternative for both Nikon and Canon.
#24
[quote name='oneguy' timestamp='1305544234' post='8358']

D90 high ISO and DR is way superior to 50D.

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50D is not even close to D90. Avoid it



http://dxomark.com/index.php/en/Camera-S...nd2)/Canon



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#25
[quote name='Brisco' timestamp='1305543914' post='8357']

What is the name of this online shop?

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EG-Electronics. They offer the D90 as EU-import for 585 and as "German" for 598 Euros. Don´t know about EU-imports and possible warranty issues with Nikon. A couple of offers from other very good online shops (e.g. Pixxass) are also around 600 Euro.



http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a360847.html
#26
Prices may drop even further soon, since the D90 is now officially discontinued.



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#27
[quote name='mst' timestamp='1305545707' post='8362']the D90 is now officially discontinued.

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Without a successor? Looks like Nikon has some serious gaps in its line-up.
#28
I guess they now consider the D7000 to be the successor.



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#29
[quote name='Sammy' timestamp='1305546471' post='8363']

Without a successor? Looks like Nikon has some serious gaps in its line-up.

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Which gap?



You had the D70 and D50. The D90 and the D40/60/3000.

No gaps, made sense.



Then the D5000 was squeezed between D3000 and D90, which made less sense.



So they moved the D90 up a bit, creating the D7000.



Now they have the D3100, D5100 and D7000. Makes perfect sense, and no strange gaps in the line up.



Next up for replacement are the D300 and D700. D300 replacement sits above D7000, and D700 replacement will be a FF with same body style.
#30
[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1305553156' post='8369']

Which gap?[/quote]



Actually at least two gaps below and above the D7000.



1. A 300 Euro gap below the D7000.

2. A product cycle gap above the D7000.
  


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