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[quote name='Lomskij' timestamp='1299232243' post='6504']

I second that. What it proves is just that half of bokeh's appeal is personal perception - that's why there are those beliefs about the "special character" of Zeiss / Leica / Canon / insert your favourite here / etc lenses that non believers simply don't get.



I've seen examples where underdogs clearly outperformed so called "bokeh kings" in some situations, so what? Some lenses show butter smooth transitions but fail miserably on highlights (onion look), etc.



Also I find the usage of blanket statements funny as well. I can generate some as well: Nikon generally has better ergonomics than Canon. White lenses generally look ugly. Oranges generally taste better than apples. Here.

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In general, is not a blanket statement. Blanket statement: Canon lenses have better bokeh than the equivalent Nikon lenses. In general makes clear that:

a. It is a generalization

b. There are or may be exceptions.



Anyway, here still some of the in no way smooth or creamy bokeh of the Nikon AF 85mm f1.4 D. Called by some the Nikon "cream-machine".



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2711/4495...c408_b.jpg



And Nikon Af-S 85mm f1.4 G, "cream-machine 2.0".



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5287/5226...fd89_b.jpg



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5169/5208...abba_b.jpg





I have found no image (with anything in the background) of either lens that makes one think "what a creamy, peaceful and effortless bokeh feel".



Not impressed by the bokeh of the 105mm VR macro either, nor of the 50mm f1.4 or the 35mm f1.8 DX.

My Nikkor 85mm f1.8 (pre Ai-S) and 55mm f3.5 micro seemed to behave a lot better, frankly.