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60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs
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[quote name='genotypewriter' timestamp='1290984991' post='4545']

I guess you didn't read what I wrote carefully because by P&S I was referring to the "kind of shots" that you can do with a 15-85+APS-C that you can't do with a prime.



If it's serious landscapes, portraits, action, etc. you can do all those with a fast prime just as good and most of the time better than with a zoom.



So the kinds of shots that you can get exclusively with a 15-85+APS-C will have:



* Overall shake (due to the reliance on IS, instead of taking a tripod and locking the mirror up)



* Little subject isolation (due to the slow aperture)



* Inaccurate focus because of less light going to the AF (so forget any real tracking but DOF is so big like on a P&S or a handycam, tracking is not even a real issue)



* Subject blur except in good light (again due to slow aperture)



* Bad bokeh (the simpler optics of primes in combination with larger apertures produce better bokeh)



* Heavy CA (due to all the extra glass etc.)



So, effectively, the shots that you can do only with a 15-85 IS that you can't do with a fast prime are P&S-like, lazy-tourist shots. So for that kind of thing I much rather carry a smaller P&S like my Nex-5.



GTW

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This is by far the best example how a thread which started with somebody asking for help in choosing a lens becomes hijacked by some narrow minded individual with a religious belief in primes and no experince of the subject he is taliking about. If you have never used something you should really not be talking about it.
  


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60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by fad2101 - 11-25-2010, 05:20 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by fad2101 - 11-25-2010, 07:58 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-25-2010, 08:16 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-25-2010, 10:23 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by genotypewriter - 11-26-2010, 02:10 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Sylvain - 11-26-2010, 12:59 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by fad2101 - 11-27-2010, 01:23 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by fad2101 - 11-27-2010, 01:29 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-27-2010, 11:41 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by genotypewriter - 11-28-2010, 06:00 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-28-2010, 11:58 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-28-2010, 02:39 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by genotypewriter - 11-28-2010, 10:31 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by genotypewriter - 11-28-2010, 10:56 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-28-2010, 11:37 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by genotypewriter - 11-29-2010, 03:17 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by genotypewriter - 11-29-2010, 03:52 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-29-2010, 07:35 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-29-2010, 08:08 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-29-2010, 02:52 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-29-2010, 03:00 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by miro - 11-29-2010, 04:39 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by fad2101 - 11-29-2010, 04:45 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by fad2101 - 11-29-2010, 05:38 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-29-2010, 06:21 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by genotypewriter - 11-29-2010, 09:56 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by genotypewriter - 11-29-2010, 10:13 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-30-2010, 09:38 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by Guest - 11-30-2010, 01:59 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by fad2101 - 12-14-2010, 11:45 PM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by genotypewriter - 12-15-2010, 05:35 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by bryan conner - 12-15-2010, 06:46 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by genotypewriter - 12-16-2010, 02:56 AM
60d with "L" lens or 7d with standard efs - by bryan conner - 12-16-2010, 07:58 AM

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