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IR: EF-S or P&S?
#11
AF is not necessary as I'll have LV and Oly/Pana lenses are not necessary as well as if I'll go with a converted EP-1 I'll just buy an adapter to my Canon lenses.
#12
[quote name='Yakim' timestamp='1284366255' post='2685']

Modifying it myself is not an option as I am not very skilled at DIY stuff[/quote]



Same here. And I guess such a conversion is challenging even for rather skilled people.



[quote name='Yakim' timestamp='1284366255' post='2685']Thus, the only option is to send it to USA to LifePixel or MaxMax and shipping costs will render it too costly. Thus, the idea of buying a converted cam is the most cost effective for me. [/quote]



Or, buy in the States and have the seller ship to a conversion service for you.



Another recommended conversion service: Optik Makario in Germany. Their website is German only, unfortunately. But feel free to contact me if you want to use their service.



[quote name='Yakim' timestamp='1284366255' post='2685']

Choosing the right IR filter is tricky as I seem to like all. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />

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Yep, fortunately I did not have to make that decision, since I bought used and had to live with what I got <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Sad' /> My Nikon uses a 830nm filter and produces b/w shots (well, more like black and pink, unprocessed <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /> ).



I'd probably choose this filter again, since I (personally) don't like the false colour shots that much (or not anymore, it's something I simply have seen too often now, just as those "toy land" tilt/shift shots ...).



Some impressions here:



[Image: IR1.jpg]



[Image: IR2.jpg]



[Image: IR3.jpg]



[Image: IR4.jpg]



-- Markus
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#13
The third one is beautiful Markus.



It's a pity that one can not have all the filters in one camera. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Sad' />
#14
Thanks!



[quote name='Yakim' timestamp='1284371868' post='2692']

It's a pity that one can not have all the filters in one camera. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Sad' />

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Actually, you can. Somehow.



Makario offers a conversion that makes the camera sensitive to light from IR down to UV. You can then add screw on filters to your liking or current mood. You can even use it for "normal" photography again by mounting a UV/IR cut filter.



-- Markus
Editor
opticallimits.com

#15
This is incredible. I never heard of this. Please tell me more (I don't speak German or I'd read what they say in their site myself).
#16
[quote name='Yakim' timestamp='1284376691' post='2697']

This is incredible. I never heard of this. Please tell me more (I don't speak German or I'd read what they say in their site myself).

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I just had a quick look: this is their "undefined" conversion (which happens to be the cheapest, too), and basically gets the most out of the sensor, i.e., allows for the recording of the spectrum from 380-1100 nM (visual spectrum is approx. 400-700 nM). This conversion increases the sensitivity of the sensor, and the resolution too, as they replace the moiré-filter as part of the operation.



The pricelist for these conversions, as well as for their filters, is here:

[url="http://web2.cylex.de/firma-homepage/http%3A//www.optik-makario.de-3548605.html"]http://web2.cylex.de...de-3548605.html[/url]



In order to limit the spectrum, they sell a bunch of specialized filters, where the EFO or "IR – Neutralisationsfilter NG" filter is the replacement for the AA- or Moiré-filter in the standard sensor assembly (and which also cuts out UV and IR). IOW, rather than have it done deep in the camera, in the sensor assembly, it gets done by an actual high-quality filter mounted to the lens. All the other filters in the pricelist indicate in nM what the cut-off is, so I giess those speak for themselves.



In addition they can adjust the AF for any wavelength you like. Personally, if going for the complete spectrum, I would keep it standard, and live with manual adjustments.



When you buy the conversion plus filter, you get a 5% discount on the filters.



So, what you get this way, in short, is a camera that can record all wavelengths from 380 to 1100 nM, with filters to limit the range of this spectrum, either for normal photography, 5 different bands of IR photography, UV-photography, and fluorescence photography.



All at a price, however <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Sad' />.



Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....
#17
This is an overview of their filters and the effect they give:



http://www.h-maccario.de/wordpress/?page_id=421



This is their price list (wim's cylex link seems to snap back to their main page):



http://www.h-maccario.de/wordpress/?page_id=479



Drawback of this solution, though: you need the filters for any filter size you're going to use.



-- Markus
Editor
opticallimits.com

#18
Drawback of this solution, though, is the price, just like wim said. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Sad' /> But I must admit it is the perfect solution.
#19
[quote name='mst' timestamp='1284378959' post='2701']

This is an overview of their filters and the effect they give:



[url="http://www.h-maccario.de/wordpress/?page_id=421"]http://www.h-maccari...ss/?page_id=421[/url]



This is their price list (wim's cylex link seems to snap back to their main page):



[url="http://www.h-maccario.de/wordpress/?page_id=479"]http://www.h-maccari...ss/?page_id=479[/url]



Drawback of this solution, though: you need the filters for any filter size you're going to use.



-- Markus

[/quote]

Thanks for that, Markus. I was already wondering why cylex would be the intermediate, although t did work for me <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Sad' />.



Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....
#20
We really need a drool icon....
  


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