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400mm fiixed focal or zoom lens for EOS 5D (i)
#11
[quote name='Reinier' timestamp='1284031488' post='2603']

Hello fellow Photozoners,



Glad to be back to the forum after several months of absence.



If I may, I have a question straight away. Last winter my Sigma 400mm/5.6 APO macro got broken, unfortunately. It only worked on my analog EOS 5 and not on my EOS 5D. I miss this focal length quite regularly and want to purchase a new one >400mm lens. But I do not know which I shall buy, a fixed focal or zoom lens. My budget is limited in the region of 750 euro, so a EF 100-400 IS is out of the question.



I would use the lens for birds, boats, surfers, etc. I already own a EF 70-200/4.0 withouth IS, but 200mm is just not enough in most case. And a 2x converter does not do the job for me. Does anybody have any idea which lens would be a good choice for a 5D?



Hope to hear from you.





Best regards,



Reinier

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I reckon the new 70-300L is too short ?
#12
But how do these Sigma lenses perform on a FF camera? I haven't found a proper test yet.



And the old Sigma 400/5.6 doesn't work on the 5D I or 40D. I had a Sigma 400/4.6 APO macro with the same problem. I rather not buy equipment abroad and the lenses that come up for sale in the Netherlands are too far for me to go to and most sellers of these lenses don't want to send the stuff, so you have to visit them.



Best wishes,



Reinier





[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1284668215' post='2860']

Like I mentioned before, the only 2 lenses that fit the bill are the Sigma 120-400mm OS and 150-500mm OS. And of course the older 80-400mm OS.



Any second hand lens is hard to get in the Netherlands.... so it makes little sense to advice on gems from the past, like a Sigma 400mm f5.6.



The best prime still is the Canon 400mm f5.6 L USM, but cheapest I can locate it is 1096 euros. And that is from an online electronics store (simplyelectronics).

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#13
Hello Klaus,



Yes, the 70-300 is too short for me. I do have a 70-200/4.0 and 1.4tc, but too often my range is just not enough. Because I can hardly walk (maybe 15 metres at a time), I need all the focal length I can get'.





Kind regards,



Reinier







[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1284669281' post='2862']

I reckon the new 70-300L is too short ?

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#14
[quote name='Reinier' timestamp='1284031488' post='2603']

Hello fellow Photozoners,



Glad to be back to the forum after several months of absence.



If I may, I have a question straight away. Last winter my Sigma 400mm/5.6 APO macro got broken, unfortunately. It only worked on my analog EOS 5 and not on my EOS 5D. I miss this focal length quite regularly and want to purchase a new one >400mm lens. But I do not know which I shall buy, a fixed focal or zoom lens. My budget is limited in the region of 750 euro, so a EF 100-400 IS is out of the question.



I would use the lens for birds, boats, surfers, etc. I already own a EF 70-200/4.0 withouth IS, but 200mm is just not enough in most case. And a 2x converter does not do the job for me. Does anybody have any idea which lens would be a good choice for a 5D?



Hope to hear from you.





Best regards,



Reinier

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Hi Reinier,



good to see you back. You seem to have a size issue, judging by your comments on the 100-400. Die you think about getting a different camera? By using a high density APSC camera like 7D or the new 60D and cropping the image, you would squeeze more out of your existing lenses.



[size="2"]The rationale behind the above is, on 4-3rd a 200mm is equivalent to 400mm. The 7D has a pixel density which is higher than the newly announced Olympus E-5. I am actually wondering whether the latest 16 to 17MP APSC cameras are the last nail in the coffin of that benefit of FT, that you get more fine detail of a given lens.[/size]



[size="2"]Joachim[/size]
enjoy
#15
Hello Joachim,



Thanks for your welcome!



Sorry for the late reply, but I spend some time thinking what to do next.I could go for another camera, but that will cost me more in the end than on tele (zoom) lens. ALthough I would love to have a 60D because of the

articulated screen. I can not bend very well, so this would be a nice bonus. I don't understand why SLR's from Canon and Nikon didn't have these screens before, my old Canon G3 from 7 years old has it already. I think it has to do with marketing purposes, so they have some new features in store when the run out of the pixel war.



By the way what does FT means?





Best wishes,



Reinier











[quote name='joachim' timestamp='1284672451' post='2865']

Hi Reinier,



good to see you back. You seem to have a size issue, judging by your comments on the 100-400. Die you think about getting a different camera? By using a high density APSC camera like 7D or the new 60D and cropping the image, you would squeeze more out of your existing lenses.



[size="2"]The rationale behind the above is, on 4-3rd a 200mm is equivalent to 400mm. The 7D has a pixel density which is higher than the newly announced Olympus E-5. I am actually wondering whether the latest 16 to 17MP APSC cameras are the last nail in the coffin of that benefit of FT, that you get more fine detail of a given lens.[/size]



[size="2"]Joachim[/size]

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#16
[quote name='Reinier' timestamp='1286266857' post='3487']

By the way what does FT means?

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I think he meant Four Thirds...
#17
[quote name='Reinier' timestamp='1284031488' post='2603']

My budget is limited in the region of 750 euro, so a EF 100-400 IS is out of the question.

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Well, a used 100-400L can be had on e*ay (with some luck) slightly above 900e ... you need to

be patient for such a deal. It is bejond the budget you named, but not that much.



I have recently aquired a 2nd hand 100-400L and I'm positively suprised by the image quality.

Not that my old 70-300 would have been a real competition, but anyhow ... the 100-400

performs very well.



Rainer
#18
Hi Rainer,



I have been thinking of selling my EF 70-200/4.0 and use the revenue to buy a 100-400mm. But the problem with this option is that I use the 70-200/4.0 quite often. It is light enough to handhold it for quite some time, whereas the 100-400mm is too heavy to handhold for long periods of time(for me at least), so I am afraid selling the EF 70-200/4.0 isn't an option. So, I need an large zoom as well next to the 70-200. Otherwise I would have sold this lens right away. The Sigma 100-300mm has the same problem.





Best wishes,



Reinier









[quote name='Rainer' timestamp='1286293074' post='3502']

Well, a used 100-400L can be had on e*ay (with some luck) slightly above 900e ... you need to

be patient for such a deal. It is bejond the budget you named, but not that much.



I have recently aquired a 2nd hand 100-400L and I'm positively suprised by the image quality.

Not that my old 70-300 would have been a real competition, but anyhow ... the 100-400

performs very well.



Rainer

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#19
I got hold of a Tokina AT-X 80-400 earlier this year. It's certainly not perfect, but it's a pretty decent budget solution that allows you to keep your other lenses.
#20
Can't Sigma fix the older lens(es) so that they _do_ work? I had a relatively old Sigma 50 mm F/2.8 EX macro that didn't work on my 5D, but Sigma fixed it for me for about EUR 50,-.



Thomas





[quote name='Reinier' timestamp='1284670434' post='2863']

And the old Sigma 400/5.6 doesn't work on the 5D I or 40D. I had a Sigma 400/4.6 APO macro with the same problem.

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