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Sony A33, A55
#91
[quote name='boren' timestamp='1284495034' post='2760']

Yes, I've seen plenty of images from the A55 and I agree with both luminous-landscape.com and dpreview.com. Their judgment of this non-issue is spot on.

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You are just being silly. But that is ok.



We know in which images the problem is pronounced, and in which circumstances it is less pronounced. VERY pronounced examples I have linked to.



If you want to claim those images a non-issue, you either are blind, or you want to claim all those images are faked.



It is not a non-issue at all, whether it is an issue for any photographer however is personal.
#92
[quote name='boren' timestamp='1284495034' post='2760']

Yes, I've seen plenty of images from the A55 and I agree with both luminous-landscape.com and dpreview.com. Their judgment of this non-issue is spot on.

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[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1284495729' post='2762']

You are just being silly. But that is ok.



We know in which images the problem is pronounced, and in which circumstances it is less pronounced. VERY pronounced examples I have linked to.



If you want to claim those images a non-issue, you either are blind, or you want to claim all those images are faked.



It is not a non-issue at all, whether it is an issue for any photographer however is personal.

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Hey guys, no need to fight.



For DPReview and Michael Reichmann it may be a non-issue indeed, so you're right there, Boren, but as Brightcolours rightfully says, it is actually there, and it is an issue for those who consider it a problem and shoot under the circumstances where this happens.



In short, you are both right.



Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....
#93
Didn't I say that I agree with Michael Reichmann? I guess Brightcolours didn't bother to ready what he wrote, so let me rephrase the text a bit, so that it comes from me:



"There has been chatter on the forums about ghosting being seen on some images taken with the A55. This apparently caused by the use of a pellicle mirror.



I've seen the online examples, but it's important to bear in mind that the vast majority of samples (including ones where testers deliberately tried to make ghosting happen) didn't show the affect. To the extent that there is such an issue, I regard it as quite minor and of the pixel peeping variety, and unlikely to be of issue to most photographers who aren't micro-examining their images at 200% on-screen."
#94
It is very rare that I find myself agreeing with Oren but in this case I do. Further, I took the opportunity of a friend going to USA (and B&H <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Sad' /> ) next month and handed him my money. If it will be in stock, he will buy it for me.



Wish me luck...
#95
[quote name='boren' timestamp='1284508087' post='2767']

Didn't I say that I agree with Michael Reichmann? I guess Brightcolours didn't bother to ready what he wrote, so let me rephrase the text a bit, so that it comes from me:



"There has been chatter on the forums about ghosting being seen on some images taken with the A55. This apparently caused by the use of a pellicle mirror.



I've seen the online examples, but it's important to bear in mind that the vast majority of samples (including ones where testers deliberately tried to make ghosting happen) didn't show the affect. To the extent that there is such an issue, I regard it as quite minor and of the pixel peeping variety, and unlikely to be of issue to most photographers who aren't micro-examining their images at 200% on-screen."

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That is just nonsense, you see it on images that are downsized to internet post format, small print format. That is on images downsized to less that 1 megapixel.

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That is hardly pixel peeping at 200%, you are just making a caricature of things.
#96
I'll concede that in the tiny amount of shots where the effect is visible, it can be seen without pixel-peeping. Now, how about replying to my other points?
#97
[quote name='boren' timestamp='1284535380' post='2776']

I'll concede that in the tiny amount of shots where the effect is visible, it can be seen without pixel-peeping. Now, how about replying to my other points?

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I do not intend to reply to you post at all. If you enjoy a flame fest, do it all by yourself. If I see a post worth replying to, I will reply.
#98
You did reply to the issue of viewing magnification, but avoided all the other points. The difference between us is that I can admit when I'm wrong, but you're too proud to do it. Never mind, your cop out speaks volumes.
  
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