08-30-2010, 12:46 PM
Considering FF vs APS-C, personally I do think it is worthwhile to go that route.
When I got my first dslr, the 5D had been out for a few months, and I thought it was too expensive, especially as I didn't know yet what I know now. To cut a very long story short, I ended up with a 5D through a rather circuitous route, and after seeing the results, I wished I had gone that route straight away. APS-C is good, IQ-wise, but FF is just better (I do a fair amount of large prints). I did get the 5D about 40 % cheaper than what it originally went for, but even so, it would have been cheaper to have gotten it straight away, with the money "lost" on all the other stuff. At the time it would have cost me two of the lenses I bought right then, but since those were EF-S, that wouldn't have mattered too much I guess, and I woul dstill have had the same possibilities I had right there and then with the 350D, barrign the crop factor at the long end.
Obviously, the 7D and D300s are completely different cameras then the 350D ever was <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />, but so are 5D II and D700 compared to their predecessors, in so far they had any <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.
Anyway, if you don't need the extra ruggedness, fps, or AF system of the 7D, I would suggest the 5D II. If youd think that 12 MP is good enough for now, while you wait for a 24 MP or so version,'and Nikon is your preferred route, I'd suggest you go with a D700 <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />.
I also agree with jenbenn on glass, BTW. My experiences with Sigma are also less than excellent. I've had a few problems with Canon glass too, but those were fixable (a total of 2 decentered lenses, which were replaced, and focus shift with the 50L, but that was fixed too). The only third party supplier I haven't had any problems with so far, is Tokina, but it does look like others did have problems with that brand as well. When it comes to AF, well, OEM is still the best.
Kind regards, Wim
When I got my first dslr, the 5D had been out for a few months, and I thought it was too expensive, especially as I didn't know yet what I know now. To cut a very long story short, I ended up with a 5D through a rather circuitous route, and after seeing the results, I wished I had gone that route straight away. APS-C is good, IQ-wise, but FF is just better (I do a fair amount of large prints). I did get the 5D about 40 % cheaper than what it originally went for, but even so, it would have been cheaper to have gotten it straight away, with the money "lost" on all the other stuff. At the time it would have cost me two of the lenses I bought right then, but since those were EF-S, that wouldn't have mattered too much I guess, and I woul dstill have had the same possibilities I had right there and then with the 350D, barrign the crop factor at the long end.
Obviously, the 7D and D300s are completely different cameras then the 350D ever was <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />, but so are 5D II and D700 compared to their predecessors, in so far they had any <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.Anyway, if you don't need the extra ruggedness, fps, or AF system of the 7D, I would suggest the 5D II. If youd think that 12 MP is good enough for now, while you wait for a 24 MP or so version,'and Nikon is your preferred route, I'd suggest you go with a D700 <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />.I also agree with jenbenn on glass, BTW. My experiences with Sigma are also less than excellent. I've had a few problems with Canon glass too, but those were fixable (a total of 2 decentered lenses, which were replaced, and focus shift with the 50L, but that was fixed too). The only third party supplier I haven't had any problems with so far, is Tokina, but it does look like others did have problems with that brand as well. When it comes to AF, well, OEM is still the best.
Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....