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Canon eos R6 reviewed
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(08-28-2020, 06:53 AM)Brightcolours Wrote: Lol, puzzling post you make there.

"Against the Nikon Z6 we think the Canon has the slight edge. We'd argue for the Canon's control layout and flexibility over the Nikon (though it's within the realms of personal preference), but feel the R6 brings a little more to the table in most respects. Rolling shutter and the looming overheat limits mean it's not a clear-cut victory for the Canon in terms of video, but the results are superb (and the Nikon can't internally record 10-bit or 60p footage). The Canon shoots faster, has excellent stabilization and features such as HDRTV-ready HEIF capture. The R6's benefits add up to enough to justify the price difference but probably aren't great enough to overrule consideration of whether the lenses you want are available."

Omitting to mention in which aspects, you write.
  • Control layout and flexibility
  • superb video results
  • 10-bit and 6-p footage
  • shoots faster
  • has excellent stabilization
  • HEIF
So they actually mention quite a few things, even though the list of what the R6 does more/better is much longer.

Then you say double the price.
B&H Z6 price: ~1800. B&H R6 price: ~2500.

By the way, DPReview also wrote a review of the Z6. In case you really interested.

Just a few points:
Z6 does 9fps at 14 bit raw, 12 fps at 12 bit raw. R6 does 12 fps at 14 bit raw, 20 fps at 12 bit raw.
Z6 : 5.5fps for live view. R6: 8fps with live view feed.
Z6 RAW buffer capacity: 43. R6 buffer capacity: 240
Z6 AF low light sensitivity: -3.5 EV. R6 AF low light sensitivity: -6.5 EV
Z6: tilting LCD. R6: Swivel LCD
R6: dual memory card slots
R6: higher res. EVF
Z6: XQD. R6: SDXC.
R6: the great DPAF for video and stills. Z6: does not.

Whether you find the $700 price difference worth all that or not, is upto you of couse.

Please, help me to see the funny part.

First - I'm not comparing the cameras, I'm quoting DPR's conclusion. The things that you say I have forgot to mention, are not included in the review we are commenting on.

Next, I'm living in Europe, not US, so I'm comparing prices in EUR. Local pricing here suggests ~1580 EUR for the Z6 vs 2880 EUR for R6. Not to mention that Nikkor 1.8S lenses are way cheaper that Canon 1.2L lenses.

You also forgot to mention that the Z6 has the better sensor - more res, BSI design with faster readout for video and electronic shutter; has better colors and more color depth.

There are no reports for overheating Z6 either.

Dual SD card slot is arguably better than XQD. The latter is more reliable and faster, which also puts the buffer depth into question. Yes, the cards are more expensive, but I got mine for free with my Z.

Ergonomics is a matter of taste in this case.

FPS does not matter for me past certain point - I find Z6 fast enough for my needs. I don't know what you are going to do with 20 fps given the excessive rolling shutter on the R6

I also don't have a TV, so I don't care about HEIF either. Web browsers, RAW converters, and printers don't support HEIF as well, so it's a gimmick at the moment.

Things that you are wrong about:
  • Z6 actually has a low-light AF mode, with sensitivity down to -6 EV vs -6.5 of the Canon
  • EVF's have the same res, maybe you are comparing against the R5, which costs EUR 5000... But the Z6 has 120 fps and higher magnification, plus the back LCD screen has 2.1k dots vs 1.6k dots on the Canon
  • R6 has faster AF, and that's the only real advantage, but it's not a night and day difference. With the latest firmware, Z6 is not too far behind. Plus Nikkor lenses are very well optimized for video, just like Lumix S Pro lenses, with minimal focus breathing and most zooms are close to parfocal. Plus - professional video is rarely made using AF. It's more of a vlogger thing
  • Buffer capacity is on paper - the Z6 will be able to flush the buffer faster on the XQD/CFExpress card than the R6 to a SD card. Good luck finding UHS-II card at a reasonable price...
  • R6's IBIS rating of 8 stops is when paired with an optical stabilization. It took Canon 2 more years to come up with IBIS than Nikon.
So, it's easier to have this conversation when the R6 is brand new, and Z6, A7III are several years old already. Let's have the same conversation when we see their updates later this year (hopefully).

For me, given the price difference in Europe, given that the Z6 is the better all-round camera, if I had to pick a system today, I would still go with Nikon because it's not one trick pony.

If the price was equal, I might give it a thought...
You just can't have too many lenses...
  


Messages In This Thread
Canon eos R6 reviewed - by miro - 08-27-2020, 08:39 PM
RE: Canon eos R6 reviewed - by Klaus - 08-27-2020, 10:08 PM
RE: Canon eos R6 reviewed - by miro - 08-28-2020, 07:58 AM
RE: Canon eos R6 reviewed - by Brightcolours - 08-28-2020, 08:03 AM
RE: Canon eos R6 reviewed - by faint - 08-28-2020, 05:31 AM
RE: Canon eos R6 reviewed - by Brightcolours - 08-28-2020, 06:53 AM
RE: Canon eos R6 reviewed - by faint - 08-28-2020, 11:22 AM
RE: Canon eos R6 reviewed - by Brightcolours - 08-28-2020, 08:23 PM
RE: Canon eos R6 reviewed - by davidmanze - 08-28-2020, 08:06 AM
RE: Canon eos R6 reviewed - by Rover - 08-28-2020, 11:43 AM
RE: Canon eos R6 reviewed - by faint - 08-28-2020, 09:08 PM
RE: Canon eos R6 reviewed - by Brightcolours - 08-28-2020, 09:31 PM

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