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(10-16-2023, 01:53 PM)toni-a Wrote: (10-16-2023, 11:46 AM)Rover Wrote: Wasn't it discontinued some time ago? It was not available in X-mount anyway.
It's discontinued long time ago, but you still can find especially on the used market, with raw material and shipping costs raising, low profit margin gear isn't a good business anymore...
Look at Canon they used to sell tons of entry level cameras and cheap kits, now they barely give any importance to this market segment
They have been ramping up quite considerably the last year, with all the APS-C bodies.
They have always first ramped up professional bodies and L-lenses prior to doing the consumer stuff. Nothing new here. And EF- and EF-S-stuff is still for sale everywhere, at least over here.
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As weird as it might sound, EFm is still very popular in Qatar....
Canon and Fiat use the same marketing strategy, Fiat makes Ferraris, people come to showroom, see the Ferrari, then get a FIAT that fits their budget....
I am not a market expert, but for Cameras entry level even with a low profit margin is vital, users used to buy their first Canon entry level DSLR along with kit lens 18-55 and " 75-300 superzoom which is better than 50-250 since it is compatible with full frame in case of upgrade" then they get hooked in the system with recurrent upgrades. Also a guy using a Canon Camera in the streets is himself an ad for Canon cameras. Also there's a marketing principle Canon is ignoring: you should do your best to avoid people going to your competitors....if they don't buy Canon they will buy Nikon or Sony then become customers of the competitor company... in the entry segments it's not the profit per camera sold and number of cameras sold that matter
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I quite liked EF-M ( and Nikon 1 ) but I suppose maintaining 2 different mounts is no longer sustainable. Panasonic is surely feeling this at the moment.
Conversely, RF-S lenses look weird on the super-sized R-mount.
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10-18-2023, 08:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-18-2023, 08:27 AM by Rover.)
That's because RF-S lenses are being made deliberately small (and lousy, at least on the outside). I guess Canon definitely doesn't want anyone to stay with RF-S for very long before switching to the better (and more $$$) full-frame lenses, and presumably cameras. Case in point: the leaked 10-18/4.5-6.3 lens, versus the quite good and proportional looking 11-22/4-5.6, which, while by no means a harbinger of light, seemed like a better balanced effort.
That's why I'm not holding my breath for any RF-S gear that is not absolutely low-end. There were photos around of the 22/2 STM pancake in RF-S guise, but nothing became of it just yet, although re-engineering it into an RF-S lens would've been a no-brainer (and not much effort). The 32/1.4... let's just say it would be a pity to see a decent lens like that go to waste in the end. To think that once Canon did give us things like the 17-55/2.8 IS...
