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Canon EOS M5 announced
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Quote:As far as a potential DR drop goes if the supposed difference can't be measured, then it's irrelevant. That's where Fuji and Olympus stands. Unless you have some kind of proof that shows otherwise, again it's just talk. I took test shots with both the mechanical and the electronic shutter. After adjusting the exposure and pixel peeping like crazy, I couldn't see any significant difference. The net result? Electronic shutter on Oly and Fuji doesn't affect DR. Again: this is not the case in some other cameras.

 

I never said rolling shutter is never an issue. I said that it seldom happens in my use of the camera. If you photograph moving stuff you're more likely to encounter it obviously. But the thing is: in real life, it's a rare occurance. I only encountered it a couple of times in hundreds or thousands of shots. Yes, I don't take pictures of moving cars or sports.

Now: have you experienced it first hand? It's easy to find stuff on the internet, but what your hand picked examples don't show is how rarely it happens.
Of course it does not rerely happen, the very slow read outs make sure it happens quite often.

How can I experience it "first hand" if I do not use any camera with full electronic shutter yet no global electronic shutter?

That is the same as asking me if I experienced 1st hand that my italian sports car from a well known brand went up in flames due to the kind of glue used near the hot engine bay, when I do nit have such an italian sports car.

 

Lets explain it this way, to get the impact clear. Lets say we have a camera which is able to shoot upto 1/32000th sec exposures, with a CMOS sensor without global shutter. Lets assume it takes 1/25th of a second to read out that sensor from top to bottom. 

It will impact ANY scene where slow exposure times of 1/25th sec or slower would produce some form of motion blur. But instead of blur, you get sharp but deformed subjects instead.

Biking people, walking/running people/animals, moving windmills, trains, cars, planes, flags in the wind, images taken from moving planes, and so on and so on, all will show some form of rolling shutter issue.


Where DR is concerned, my position should be known by now. If a camera has enough DR, like my 6D, it is pointless to keep on ranting for more DR, unless one has heavy shadow lifting as hobby.

But others apparently say they find high DR important, and for those the impact of lower DR due to use of full electronic shutter will be an issue.

  


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Canon EOS M5 announced - by Klaus - 09-15-2016, 04:40 AM
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