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Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii
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Quote:I'm pretty sure for me it would be only be better if it was on a tripod.  One of my first shots with the lens was a Cerceris wasp on a canopy of white carrot flowers.  These have been somewhat challenging subjects in the past, even with 60 and 180mm macro lenses.  But my very first shot produced a very decent result at f/6.3 and ISO 200. 


I asked the question because of the emoticon.  Far from clarifying, I was wondering if he was happy with his lens, laughing at my choice (heaven forbid!) or congratulating me on having chosen a very sharp and versatile lens.  I'm fine with any of those reactions, just curious, that's all.

 

I'm probably not as much a perfectionist as the average photographer.  My motto is:  "I'm a perfectionist, but not very good at it!"
 

Hi Arthur,

 

Before I forget: the ideal way to photograph fast moving critters, or macro at high level magnification, is with a flash, or a few flashes.

I have a large, old (Vivitar 283) flash bracket, which I use to mount the main flash body. This is a ring flash, so the flash itself is mounted separately, around the front of the lens (it actually is an old Cokin system, which I got for almost free; I trigger it remotely as it was not designed for digital, even though it is mounted to the camera), You could also use a few small flashes, one triggered by the camera, and one or two by slave triggers or remote connections. Just mount them in some way around the lens. These flashes need not to be high power. At these close distances they often are too bright. Darkening, if necessary (beyond anything that the flash controls are capable of), can be done by affixing one or more pieces of paper Smile. You just need to experiment a bit.

 

Anyway, the neat thing about the flash bracket is that it has a handle, and together with the body shape it means I can comfortably hold it with two hands, quite sturdily. I set the focus manually, effectively to a specific magnification I am after. What I do next is just move closer, a bit like using a camera under water, until I get focus, then sway slightly backwards and forwards, and push the shutter button when I have acceptable focus (I use the OVF to check focus). I repeat this a few times, and I will always have a sharp shot that way.

 

A tripod is not necessarily the way to go with quick moving critters, as they do move away when you come too close, plus a good tripod with camera tends to be cumbersome to set up correctly, let alone quickly. Also, use a lens as long as possible to do these type of shots, exactly because of this.

 

I happen to be a perfectionist, but am practical too, most of the time anyway Smile, so I try to find solutions, create them myself, if need be Smile. I rarely shoot macro from a tripod these days, unless there is no other way or if I am working in a studio type environment Smile.

 

As to macro lenses: I will use any lens to shoot macro if I can help it, but will stick to those that work well. I was never very satisfied with the Canon 100 USM, and did not like the 100L either. I did like the EF-S 60 when I had that, the 50 F/2.5 CM, be it for specific purposes, as it is rather short, and I used the 70-200 F/4L in the past, when I still had it, and also the 70-200 F/4L IS, but I was never satisfied with that for close-up and macro, while the non-IS did very well indeed. I also liked the 100-400 L a lot for macro when I still had that. With a Canon 500D close-up lens it gives excellent quality, and goes from 1:0.25 to 1:1 just by zooming (for long lenses you are better off using a good close-up lens than extension tubes, if simply because of the large extensions required otherwise Smile).

 

These days when I shoot macro I use the 50L, 135L, 180L Macro, MP-E 65, TS-E 45, and TS-E 90. The 50L may not be as sharp as the 135L, but the rendering is out of this world for macro. The 135L is just good at anything, and the 180L is one beautiful lens for macro (and for general shooting, even if it is not very fast).  The MP-E 65 ws designed for macro only; effectively it is a lens with built-in bellows, and it handles an extender very well too. The TS-Es generally work extremely well at MFD, just that the shorter ones get problematic with extension tubes, obviously. What a lot of people do not know, is that both back- and foreground bokeh with the TS-Es is totally out of this world, the sharpness decrease is always gradual, whatever the back- or foreground. Where grass blades ay give funny effects, f.e., even with lenses known for their good bokeh, these lenses just give magnificent blur.

 

With MFT I normally use my PanaLeica 45 for macro, and it is a great lens at that too. I tend to have that with me most of the time when I am going light.

 

Anyway, some thoughts and ideas.

 

HTH, kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....
  


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Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by toni-a - 06-06-2016, 07:59 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by chrismiller - 06-07-2016, 07:47 AM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 06-07-2016, 01:28 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by chrismiller - 06-07-2016, 01:39 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 06-07-2016, 07:54 PM
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Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 06-07-2016, 08:56 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Rover - 06-08-2016, 10:11 AM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 06-08-2016, 10:15 AM
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Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 06-23-2016, 08:35 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Rover - 06-26-2016, 06:31 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by toni-a - 06-27-2016, 07:14 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 06-27-2016, 07:29 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by toni-a - 06-27-2016, 08:04 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 06-27-2016, 08:27 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by chrismiller - 06-28-2016, 10:06 AM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 06-28-2016, 10:20 AM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by toni-a - 06-28-2016, 09:27 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by chrismiller - 06-28-2016, 10:20 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 06-28-2016, 10:27 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 06-30-2016, 05:52 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by toni-a - 06-30-2016, 06:09 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 06-30-2016, 06:45 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 06-30-2016, 09:01 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by wim - 07-02-2016, 10:28 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by toni-a - 07-03-2016, 04:58 AM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by Brightcolours - 07-03-2016, 03:18 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by wim - 07-03-2016, 05:42 PM
Canon 6D or Canon 5D Mark ii - by wim - 07-03-2016, 05:46 PM
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