04-09-2013, 03:53 PM
<p style="font-size:12px;font-family:Helvetica;">2c - well talking stills anyway: various full frame sensors would possibly produce similar comparative results, say 3X/900 Vs 5D3 - but the seeing-thru-the-haze shot was a good feature:-)
<p style="font-size:12px;font-family:Helvetica;">….and although i'm not familiar now with moving pix graders, with stills at least in post it is possible to bring out the apparently missing detail in the whites and blacks from the canon sensors, if you want to do so and prefer that look that is - but for moving pictures and that 'real' look CC does look easier here - maybe it would depend on how the small sensor compares on the big screen in the cinema - and maybe at least one of us might have graded the shots in a different way
<p style="font-size:12px;font-family:Helvetica;">….not in anyway to say that this is not an interesting demo though
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edit 10/04 - why an edit? = didn't look close enough first time and don't want to make another post, sorry -
so, on a further quick look at this, it seems to me that -
1. they are using the 5d3 at: rez 0, contrast -4, saturation -2, colour 0 not settings i would use for output jpegs
2. looks like CC pulls the peak whites and blacks to increase detail/contrast in same as standard settings (in this case) - not such a bad idea, but can it be disabled if that is not what you want
3. if no filters used then why haze and no apparent haze in the lens/distance comparison shots (did the haze blow away
and why star effect and no star effect on some contrast comparison shots
4. they say no post grading, but no one does no post grading especially for commercials
so maybe the camera is good or maybe less so but this sales demo would leave me wanting to look at the camera myself to see whats what
.... and not sure that an actual shutter is such a bad idea for this kind of stuff
<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:Helvetica;">….and don't show the gf how much gear she has to carry around in the back pack to go with this little camera ;-)
<p style="font-size:12px;font-family:Helvetica;">….and although i'm not familiar now with moving pix graders, with stills at least in post it is possible to bring out the apparently missing detail in the whites and blacks from the canon sensors, if you want to do so and prefer that look that is - but for moving pictures and that 'real' look CC does look easier here - maybe it would depend on how the small sensor compares on the big screen in the cinema - and maybe at least one of us might have graded the shots in a different way
<p style="font-size:12px;font-family:Helvetica;">….not in anyway to say that this is not an interesting demo though
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edit 10/04 - why an edit? = didn't look close enough first time and don't want to make another post, sorry -
so, on a further quick look at this, it seems to me that -
1. they are using the 5d3 at: rez 0, contrast -4, saturation -2, colour 0 not settings i would use for output jpegs
2. looks like CC pulls the peak whites and blacks to increase detail/contrast in same as standard settings (in this case) - not such a bad idea, but can it be disabled if that is not what you want
3. if no filters used then why haze and no apparent haze in the lens/distance comparison shots (did the haze blow away
and why star effect and no star effect on some contrast comparison shots4. they say no post grading, but no one does no post grading especially for commercials
so maybe the camera is good or maybe less so but this sales demo would leave me wanting to look at the camera myself to see whats what
.... and not sure that an actual shutter is such a bad idea for this kind of stuff
<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:Helvetica;">….and don't show the gf how much gear she has to carry around in the back pack to go with this little camera ;-)