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Difference between old(I) en new(II) Canon 24mm TSE lens
#1
Hello All,



The Canon 24mm TSE II lens is a very good lens according to all tests. Does anyone know where I can find a comparison between the I and II versions? Because I want to know the difference in design and quality.



A couple of years ago I thought I saw an older lens from Canon with a shift only option or at least that's what someone sold secondhand. But I was not able to check it or ask him. Is it true that Canon has an older lens with shift only option?



Hope to hear from you.





Best wishes,



Reinier
#2
I have the old one but not the new one. My sample is used and was an impulse buy at the price. Doesn't feel the sharpest tool in the box wide open or stopped down. But it does the tilt shift thing which is of course why I got it. It is dormant for now as it doesn't make so good use on crop sensor and is one of my playthings for when I go full frame again. From reading around the reviews of the mk2, it seems like it is a much better lens, and it should be for the price!



I'm not aware of a "shift only" lens from Canon in the EOS era. Don't know about older than that.
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#3
The TS-E 24L Mk I is actually a much better lens than it is made out to be. It did (does) things no other lenses can or could do, on Canon anyway, until the Mk II version.



Shifting this lens creates higher quality pictures than similar corrections in post-processing with a non-TS lens of roughly the same era, so its IQ is a bit of a moot point when you need shift (or tilt for that matter).



Furthermore, its bokeh is extremely good for a 24 mm, as unlike with other lenses, and especially WA lenses, sharp OOF edges, such as blades of grass, defocus very beautifully, both in foreground and in background, whereas other lenses will create double lines or blocky bokeh. And this lens creates this very good bokeh at all apertures, even at F/8, F/11, F/16 <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />. BTW, this is true for all of Canon's TS-E lenses.



Pictures taken with this lens also take well to sharpening - it does "see" a lot more detail than one would expect at first, at least IME. It does require a bit of work IOW, but the images it produces are really nice. I've actually used it a lot for (semi-) macro sessions on APS-C, and the neat thing is that with tilt it can focus a lot closer than the official MFD of 45 cm. You can get as close as half that distance without a problem, IME.



When I switched to FF, I started using this lens less, basically because it now became a proper 24 mm, and I used the TS-E 45 for the shots I used to use the TS-E 24 for on APS-C.



Eventually, I sold it, to partly fund a TS-E 17, as I was also looking for a high quality 17 mm. However, lately I find I am missing this lens again, so I am reconsidering, especially as I don't have the budget for a Mk II right now <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />. And the TS-E 24L Mk I seems to go for anything between 650 and 800 euros these days, so with a bit of luck you can find one at a good price.



As to PC only Canon lenses, that may have been some FD or FL glass, although I am sure the last 35 mm incarnation was a TS lens. They can be converted to EOS, BTW, with a bit of work. Due to the distance to the back element, this is not a problem, you just need to be a good technical handyman. This procedure is irreversible, however, if you want infinity focus.



The difference in design and quality between Mk I and II is optics, in the first place, the TS-E 24 Mk II is probably the best lens Canon currently produces, it is very sturdy, with clever independent tilt- and shift - setting options, whereas the Mk I is good for a 24 mm of its period, is no slouch in sturdiness either, even if the Mk II is better, and has TS settings either positioned at 90 degrees (standard setting), or in parallel. And the latter requires a (good quality precision) screwdriver and some careful disassembling and reassembling of the housing of the lens. Easy enough, though, I've done it a few times.



HTH, kind regards, Wim
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#4
Hello Popo and Wim,



Sorry for the late reply. I didn't have the energy last week to visit Photozone, so hence my late reply.



Anyway, many thanks for your thourogh replies. It is always nice to hear from you.



I took the plunge, finally I bought the TS 24mm/3.5 I! I have been thinking for months what lenses to buy. I didn't know until last week. I sold my EF 17-40L, EF 28mm/2.8, and several other items before I could buy another lens. Some time ago we discussed which would be a good new standard zoom for me. You advised me to go for the EF 24-105 IS, but it has quite a bit of distortion at 24mm and that's what I wanted to avoid and it is quite expensive. Others advised me the EF 28-105mm/3.5-4.5 II or the Tamron 28-75mm/2.8.



I took all the advises into account and so I didn't go for the EF 24-105mm, but for the EF 28-105mm/3.5-4.5 II and a EF TS 24mm/3.5 I. The descions was made when I found out that this combo was cheaper than a new or used EF 24-105.



I have not tested it properly yet outside, because of the fog the last couple of days and the lack of energy. But as soon as I feel a bit better and the sky clears than I gonna try the TS lens. I can't wait!!



Thanks everyone for the comments in the last few months, thanks to everyone would replied to my messages. They are always very useful!!





Best wishes,



Reinier
  


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