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Close up photography with 24/3.5 II
#1
I have just learned that the 24/3.5 II has a very good close up ability: 1:3. Combining this with its TS ability should give some very interesting results. As I am very interested in close up photography I wondered if any of you have exploited this ability. If you have, please post your pictures. TIA.
#2
[quote name='Yakim' timestamp='1281145684' post='1562']

I have just learned that the 24/3.5 II has a very good close up ability: 1:3. Combining this with its TS ability should give some very interesting results. As I am very interested in close up photography I wondered if any of you have exploited this ability. If you have, please post your pictures. TIA.

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I am sure you can get some really nice results with this lens at MFD. But further than 1:3 will not be possible, as the lens is too long for that. Even a 12mm extension tube will push focus of the subject against or past the front element.



So, yes, upto its 0.34x magnification it should do well, also considering its very low CA.



But if you want more, a 24mm lens or 20mm lens which is shorter in build, and with a 12mm extension ring, is a smarter buy. Do note that with a 12mm extension ring the focus-able area collapses in an extreme way with a 24mm lens.



To show what happens with a 12mm extension ring on 24mm (if the lens length allows it:

Using my 12-24mm f4 Tokina, which shows big optical aberrations at such close up distances, with Canon 12mm extension tube.

[Image: med_gallery_10230_17_57245.jpg]



[Image: med_gallery_10230_17_22460.jpg]



Both taken on APS-C, so the field of view, while obviously wide, is not the same as you would get on full frame. But it does show how close one can get with 24mm.

The tilt from a TS lens would be very interesting, but you will only reach 1:3, obviously.
#3
I have the mk1 which only goes to 0.14x. I did note due to its construction it would take a teleconverter easily, so that could be a way to increase magnification.
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#4
[quote name='popo' timestamp='1281189474' post='1567']

I have the mk1 which only goes to 0.14x. I did note due to its construction it would take a teleconverter easily, so that could be a way to increase magnification.

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But with a TC you lose field of view, which is the charm of that lens. And you will have to put a big TC inbetween to get a real increase in magnification. If you just want the TS nature of the lens but do not care about the wide angle, getting a 90mm TS makes more sense...
#5
Simple WA close up is less interesting. I already have 12mm tube, 10-22 and 17-55/2.8 IS (not to mention 60/2.8 and 100/2.8 IS). I'm interested in WA close up + TS, for the special effect enabled by the TS.
#6
I've done some work with the TS-E 24L (Mark I) for macro and semi-macro, on APS-C, and it actually works very well indeed.



With a 12 mm extension tube and some tilt, you can actually get the start of the DoF plane to lie almost within the lens, and image quality is actually still very good. I've also used ti successfully for flower shots, close-up, where I also made use of tilt to get the focus plane very near to th ecamera. I liek th eplan eto run at approximately 45 degrees in that case.



One of th every strong and quite often overlooked points of the TS-Es, is that they have incredibly good bokeh at all f-stops. Anythign not in focus, always faeds away very nicely, whether the items or subjects in the OOF areas are angular or not. And that is true both for background and foreground, which si another remarkable achievement. Of course, shooting semi-macro these characteristics will become most clear with the TS-E 24 <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />.



Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....
#7
Wim, can you post some examples?
#8
[quote name='Yakim' timestamp='1281214512' post='1572']

Wim, can you post some examples?

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I can't in a public forum in this case. I'll contact you b/c.



Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....
#9
[quote name='wim' timestamp='1281209700' post='1571']

I've done some work with the TS-E 24L (Mark I) for macro and semi-macro, on APS-C, and it actually works very well indeed.



With a 12 mm extension tube and some tilt, you can actually get the start of the DoF plane to lie almost within the lens, and image quality is actually still very good. I've also used ti successfully for flower shots, close-up, where I also made use of tilt to get the focus plane very near to th ecamera. I liek th eplan eto run at approximately 45 degrees in that case.



One of th every strong and quite often overlooked points of the TS-Es, is that they have incredibly good bokeh at all f-stops. Anythign not in focus, always faeds away very nicely, whether the items or subjects in the OOF areas are angular or not. And that is true both for background and foreground, which si another remarkable achievement. Of course, shooting semi-macro these characteristics will become most clear with the TS-E 24 <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />.



Kind regards, Wim

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The problem with the Canon TS-E 24mm f3.5 L II is that it is so much longer than the mark I.

Where the mark I has a length to about 87mm, the MK II' s length has increased to about 107mm. That increase makes it virtually impossible to use it with a 12mm extension ring. In that light, the MK I version has an advantage for close up work past 1:3...



In comparison: The EF-S Canon 10-22mm f3.5-4.5 USM has a length of about 89mm, and the Tokina 12-24mm f4 I have used about the same size.
#10
[quote name='wim' timestamp='1281217634' post='1573']

I can't in a public forum in this case. I'll contact you b/c.



Kind regards, Wim

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My regular e-mail is my work's e-mail and I'm currently on vacation so please send them to [email protected] TIA.
  
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