08-18-2010, 10:37 AM
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One thing I do not understand from your posted images is the lack of magnification (anemone shots). Is nr 3 really at MFD? I know I tried 24mm with 12mm ext. tube only on APS-C, but then still, to me it seems I got much bigger magnification.
Also, the 24mm TS-E II offers closer MFD than the lens I tried with, so to me it is even more puzzling. Those anemones are actually quite big...
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Yes, I agree that there isn't much magnification, and the results from your zoom are preferable to my eye than these examples, but I am sure that I had the lens as far as it would turn to mfd, and I just used the rail to slide the camera in to focus with and without the tube on. Two images at mfd have the tube on, two don't, but the file name is generic just for simplicity on my end when i exported them to a folder [they all say 12mm tube if it wasn't actually used on the example including the image of the setup]. The images are quite distinct with the tube, so I didn't think it was necessary to identify them separately, and the exif was minimized since I don't really want everyone knowing all the boring details about me that is also embedded on the RAW files.
The last photo there of the tripod next to the anemone gives some scale, but overall they are small bumble-bees on large Japanese anemone. I am at a different computer, but I recall my exif indicating that 220mm was the focus distance on all shots either with or without the 12mm tube, and these are with a 5D II.
Truthfully, I wouldn't post these images as examples of my photography either, but I thought it would relatively clearly answer the utility of this lens for close-focus with the tube on, however I didn't utilize tilt in the anemone examples; but I really didn't think it worthwhile or practical anyways. On a flatter, more two dimensional subject like the lightmeter there are benefits to the close focus and tilt, but again, I would much rather use the ts-e 90 than the 24. I am still learning to use the lens, and get a feel for when to use movements, but I still have a long ways to go.
One thing I do not understand from your posted images is the lack of magnification (anemone shots). Is nr 3 really at MFD? I know I tried 24mm with 12mm ext. tube only on APS-C, but then still, to me it seems I got much bigger magnification.
Also, the 24mm TS-E II offers closer MFD than the lens I tried with, so to me it is even more puzzling. Those anemones are actually quite big...
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Yes, I agree that there isn't much magnification, and the results from your zoom are preferable to my eye than these examples, but I am sure that I had the lens as far as it would turn to mfd, and I just used the rail to slide the camera in to focus with and without the tube on. Two images at mfd have the tube on, two don't, but the file name is generic just for simplicity on my end when i exported them to a folder [they all say 12mm tube if it wasn't actually used on the example including the image of the setup]. The images are quite distinct with the tube, so I didn't think it was necessary to identify them separately, and the exif was minimized since I don't really want everyone knowing all the boring details about me that is also embedded on the RAW files.
The last photo there of the tripod next to the anemone gives some scale, but overall they are small bumble-bees on large Japanese anemone. I am at a different computer, but I recall my exif indicating that 220mm was the focus distance on all shots either with or without the 12mm tube, and these are with a 5D II.
Truthfully, I wouldn't post these images as examples of my photography either, but I thought it would relatively clearly answer the utility of this lens for close-focus with the tube on, however I didn't utilize tilt in the anemone examples; but I really didn't think it worthwhile or practical anyways. On a flatter, more two dimensional subject like the lightmeter there are benefits to the close focus and tilt, but again, I would much rather use the ts-e 90 than the 24. I am still learning to use the lens, and get a feel for when to use movements, but I still have a long ways to go.