I've been debating for some time if I should pick up the 5dmk2. The two reasons I've held off so far are the size (I prefer smaller cameras) and a lot of people shots on the web have a bluish tint to the skin that I dislike. The images posted in the 5dmk2 thread lack the tint so maybe it is just bad post processing by the majority of folks.
Anyways a few years ago I picked up a new 125apo EOS. Never used (I hope it is a decent copy) on the pretense that I would eventually get a 5dmk2. My reasons for this lens was primarily APO (not macro) as I strongly dislike CA.
I've been using a 15-85 on an xsi with mixed results. I think the lens I have is fairly sharp but I often have to use 3x focal length when 100% pixel peeping to obtain critical sharpness (focus on the xsi seem reasonably accurate). The blur by this lens is imho rather poor (partly because it is a slow lens and partly because rendering is yucky). The contrast seems reasonably high and CA seem relatively low.
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I have a trip in a few weeks to alaska. I've been debating picking up a 5dmk2 with 35ze and either 90f3.5 or keeping the 125apo (hence this post).
Alternative I could take the xsi with the 15-85 and my old 50f1.7 c/y lens (which i can't focus well on this body).
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In addition i will be taking a 70-200f4 with 1.4x for whales and wildlife.
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I could pick up the 5dmk2 with 24-105 lens but from images on the web I suspect I would be unhappy with the 24-105 and better off with the 35f2 (or 40f2) and 90f3.5 (or 125apo).
I want to stress that I am not into macro photography but i normally use a 85-100mm lens for isolation/scenic.
35 is not quite as wide as i normally go (in film days I used 25f2.8 and 28f2.8; normally the 25 for street and 28 for landscape) but I'm not an ultra wide sort of person. However I DO like zeiss over-the-top micro-contrast (the way slight colour variation shows up with zeiss lenses). I would not consider buying the new 100f2 lens as it is too heavy and expensive and has too much CA.
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The bluish tint of photos on the web of people is likely due to WB problems, either straight in-camera, or in postprocessing on non-calibrated monitors. I wouldn't worry too much about that if you yourself do know how to set WB appropriately for the circumstances you are shooting in, and use a calibrated monitor for postprocessing.
The 15-85 is a standard zoom with a rather large range, and although very good indeed for such a zoom, it still is a compromise. If you need to save space and/or weight, it is a great lens to have.
Since the 90 F/3.5 is not near as good as the 125 APO, I'd suggest you keep the APO, especially since you do not consider the ZE 100. If you can't focus the CZ well on your crop body, I wouldn't even bother taking it along; as it will only become an object of frustration if you do have to use it.
If this trip is a once in a lifetime trip, I'd suggest you take all you can carry or take along, so that you have a backup of sorts. If not, I would suggest to take that which will give you the best quality pictures.
So, if you really think you will be unhappy with the 24-105 on the 5D Mk II, which I do think is better than any of the APS-C kit lenses, I would indeed suggest either the 35 F/2 or 40 F/2, and the APO 125, considering your penchant for Zeis etc., and APO lenses. If you think the 35 F/2 is too long, you could also consider the ZE 28 I guess. However, in that case I would also pick up a 50 mm lens (50 F/2. not the F/1.4) if I were you. For MF without using LiveView I would suggest the Eg-S focusing screen, BTW. It is much more accurate to showing what you focused on and how deep DoF really is.
Considering whales and wildlife, I would think that although the 70-200 with extender could be long enough for wildlife, it may well not be so for whales. A lot of people who do shoot whales, use a 100-400L or one of the longer superteles, AFAIK.
HTH, kind regards, WIm
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[quote name='you2' date='27 June 2010 - 01:39 AM' timestamp='1277595576' post='720']
I've been debating for some time if I should pick up the 5dmk2. The two reasons I've held off so far are the size (I prefer smaller cameras) and a lot of people shots on the web have a bluish tint to the skin that I dislike. The images posted in the 5dmk2 thread lack the tint so maybe it is just bad post processing by the majority of folks.
Anyways a few years ago I picked up a new 125apo EOS. Never used (I hope it is a decent copy) on the pretense that I would eventually get a 5dmk2. My reasons for this lens was primarily APO (not macro) as I strongly dislike CA.
I've been using a 15-85 on an xsi with mixed results. I think the lens I have is fairly sharp but I often have to use 3x focal length when 100% pixel peeping to obtain critical sharpness (focus on the xsi seem reasonably accurate). The blur by this lens is imho rather poor (partly because it is a slow lens and partly because rendering is yucky). The contrast seems reasonably high and CA seem relatively low.
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I have a trip in a few weeks to alaska. I've been debating picking up a 5dmk2 with 35ze and either 90f3.5 or keeping the 125apo (hence this post).
Alternative I could take the xsi with the 15-85 and my old 50f1.7 c/y lens (which i can't focus well on this body).
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In addition i will be taking a 70-200f4 with 1.4x for whales and wildlife.
--
I could pick up the 5dmk2 with 24-105 lens but from images on the web I suspect I would be unhappy with the 24-105 and better off with the 35f2 (or 40f2) and 90f3.5 (or 125apo).
I want to stress that I am not into macro photography but i normally use a 85-100mm lens for isolation/scenic.
35 is not quite as wide as i normally go (in film days I used 25f2.8 and 28f2.8; normally the 25 for street and 28 for landscape) but I'm not an ultra wide sort of person. However I DO like zeiss over-the-top micro-contrast (the way slight colour variation shows up with zeiss lenses). I would not consider buying the new 100f2 lens as it is too heavy and expensive and has too much CA.
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I don't know how much you paid for your 125 but the prices over at ebay are nothing short of insane right now.
It's a good time to sell it I think .... if you want to.
Yea. That's probably the smart thing to do. What is a fair non-ebay price ? 1100 ?
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[quote name='Klaus' date='27 June 2010 - 11:41 AM' timestamp='1277631704' post='728']
I don't know how much you paid for your 125 but the prices over at ebay are nothing short of insane right now.
It's a good time to sell it I think .... if you want to.
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Unless you get second thoughts afterwards: it'll be virtually impossible to replace.... <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
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[quote name='you2' date='27 June 2010 - 02:11 PM' timestamp='1277640711' post='729']
Yea. That's probably the smart thing to do. What is a fair non-ebay price ? 1100 ?
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Kind regards, Wim
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I'd keep it. Looks like a perfect "sell and regret forever" lens to me.
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[quote name='you2' date='27 June 2010 - 04:39 PM' timestamp='1277649579' post='733']
Sigh. I hate conflicting answers <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
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<img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />. Well, it is one of those lenses considered to be extremely good, which isn't manufactured anymore, and only a very limited quantity was manufactured, especially in EOS-mount.
So, if you are sure you'd never want another anymore, do sell it, but if you aren't, I'd suggest you keep it.
Kind regards, Wim
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Sigh. I hate conflicting answers <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
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